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CptSuperlative t1_je6otv0 wrote

Reply to comment by Medeski in Apple sued for allegedly firing, threatening union organizers by Loki-L

So much this. It's not like Alphabet or Samsung or Microsoft have great reputations with regard to unionization. And we have to use this tech. There is no practical alternative.

But we can vote for pro-union political candidates and pro-union state initiatives/propositions etc.

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Excellent_Concert888 t1_je73k5l wrote

Do they not realize that unions have a cleansing effect on the relationship between employees and management? It makes things clearer, better?

How many class action lawsuits have happened for unionized vs non-unionized labor for companies where the lawsuit was related to unfair labor practices?

If the point of Union-busting is NOT to control labor, then why is it a worthwhile activity? Aside from ensuring employer ability to exploit employee indiscriminately?

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CptSuperlative t1_je7560m wrote

Honestly? I believe it's something mostly cultural which is engrained in them at business school and which these highly paid, highly esteemed executives lack the courage, curiosity, and intelligence to question.

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Excellent_Concert888 t1_je77jed wrote

It can happen even with folks not from business school, people who go from the same role you’re in into management can show the same propensity.

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Psychotrip t1_je76b4d wrote

>Do they not realize that unions have a cleansing effect on the relationship between employees and management? It makes things clearer, better?

Why do you think they want things to get "better" if they benefit from the status quo? Why risk losing power over the working class? Keeping us scared and desperate keeps us in line. Its kind of the whole point.

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Excellent_Concert888 t1_je77dix wrote

I guess I was asking rhetorical questions. They don’t want things to get better, and if the best people end up quitting because of it, then fine. At least people who give a shit about unions or otherwise have eyes have left and those remaining have an example of what happens

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HasAngerProblem t1_je9a7ss wrote

They have to try make more money than last year, even if last year was record breaking profits. If you’re the one or few people who caused the stock to go down over moral responsibility when you are in charge you’re getting sued for not doing your fiduciary duty.

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