Submitted by Loki-L t3_125klbw in technology
Medeski t1_je61yfz wrote
Reply to comment by RedHare18 in Apple sued for allegedly firing, threatening union organizers by Loki-L
What sucks is that there really is nowhere to go. All corporations are like this.
The best thing we can do is support unions and the people attempting to form a union.
CptSuperlative t1_je6otv0 wrote
So much this. It's not like Alphabet or Samsung or Microsoft have great reputations with regard to unionization. And we have to use this tech. There is no practical alternative.
But we can vote for pro-union political candidates and pro-union state initiatives/propositions etc.
Excellent_Concert888 t1_je73k5l wrote
Do they not realize that unions have a cleansing effect on the relationship between employees and management? It makes things clearer, better?
How many class action lawsuits have happened for unionized vs non-unionized labor for companies where the lawsuit was related to unfair labor practices?
If the point of Union-busting is NOT to control labor, then why is it a worthwhile activity? Aside from ensuring employer ability to exploit employee indiscriminately?
CptSuperlative t1_je7560m wrote
Honestly? I believe it's something mostly cultural which is engrained in them at business school and which these highly paid, highly esteemed executives lack the courage, curiosity, and intelligence to question.
Excellent_Concert888 t1_je77jed wrote
It can happen even with folks not from business school, people who go from the same role you’re in into management can show the same propensity.
Psychotrip t1_je76b4d wrote
>Do they not realize that unions have a cleansing effect on the relationship between employees and management? It makes things clearer, better?
Why do you think they want things to get "better" if they benefit from the status quo? Why risk losing power over the working class? Keeping us scared and desperate keeps us in line. Its kind of the whole point.
Excellent_Concert888 t1_je77dix wrote
I guess I was asking rhetorical questions. They don’t want things to get better, and if the best people end up quitting because of it, then fine. At least people who give a shit about unions or otherwise have eyes have left and those remaining have an example of what happens
HasAngerProblem t1_je9a7ss wrote
They have to try make more money than last year, even if last year was record breaking profits. If you’re the one or few people who caused the stock to go down over moral responsibility when you are in charge you’re getting sued for not doing your fiduciary duty.
swimtwobird t1_je6vlxd wrote
Corporations in America. If apple tried any of that crap in the EU they’d get nuked from orbit.
ukezi t1_je6xjre wrote
Tesla tried in their German plant. The union and courts were not impressed at all.
swimtwobird t1_je6xwe6 wrote
Yeah Germany is the last place on earth you should try any of that. They will drop kick you.
Psychotrip t1_je76ef0 wrote
And yet the EU is fine reaping the fruit of rotten labor just like America. Makes no difference.
Psychotrip t1_je75rcv wrote
I mean we could dismantle the literal dystopian megacorps we've been brainwashed into thinking are helpful to us in any way. This whole economic system is poison and incentivizes sociopathy.
Medeski t1_je7e5tv wrote
That is the end game of capitalism.
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