Submitted by Loki-L t3_125klbw in technology
greatest_fapperalive t1_je57dz9 wrote
Reply to comment by idontsmokeheroin in Apple sued for allegedly firing, threatening union organizers by Loki-L
I work there presently, and this is 100% correct. I mentioned a union to a co-worker -- outside of work and suddenly I am getting harassed due to performance.
Things like going outside of our troubleshooting documentation to fix an issue (I told the customer to restart safari)
Being scored by a manager who has zero idea of how technology works, and trying to make me admit I am wrong about doing X, or Y.
Being harassed when I am not at work because their system stated I was still logged in and in an idle state. I hadn't even logged in that day, and the time frame was off that it would even be possible.
Gaslighting, bullying, harassment. It's disgusting when you see the image apple tries to put out -- but on the inside they're a bunch of bullies who are terrified to say anything in writing. But will most certainly call you into a meeting to chastise you.
RedHare18 t1_je5qmhx wrote
currently regretting reading this on my mac while wearing an apple watch with an iPhone and airpods in my pockets
Medeski t1_je61yfz wrote
What sucks is that there really is nowhere to go. All corporations are like this.
The best thing we can do is support unions and the people attempting to form a union.
CptSuperlative t1_je6otv0 wrote
So much this. It's not like Alphabet or Samsung or Microsoft have great reputations with regard to unionization. And we have to use this tech. There is no practical alternative.
But we can vote for pro-union political candidates and pro-union state initiatives/propositions etc.
Excellent_Concert888 t1_je73k5l wrote
Do they not realize that unions have a cleansing effect on the relationship between employees and management? It makes things clearer, better?
How many class action lawsuits have happened for unionized vs non-unionized labor for companies where the lawsuit was related to unfair labor practices?
If the point of Union-busting is NOT to control labor, then why is it a worthwhile activity? Aside from ensuring employer ability to exploit employee indiscriminately?
CptSuperlative t1_je7560m wrote
Honestly? I believe it's something mostly cultural which is engrained in them at business school and which these highly paid, highly esteemed executives lack the courage, curiosity, and intelligence to question.
Excellent_Concert888 t1_je77jed wrote
It can happen even with folks not from business school, people who go from the same role you’re in into management can show the same propensity.
Psychotrip t1_je76b4d wrote
>Do they not realize that unions have a cleansing effect on the relationship between employees and management? It makes things clearer, better?
Why do you think they want things to get "better" if they benefit from the status quo? Why risk losing power over the working class? Keeping us scared and desperate keeps us in line. Its kind of the whole point.
Excellent_Concert888 t1_je77dix wrote
I guess I was asking rhetorical questions. They don’t want things to get better, and if the best people end up quitting because of it, then fine. At least people who give a shit about unions or otherwise have eyes have left and those remaining have an example of what happens
HasAngerProblem t1_je9a7ss wrote
They have to try make more money than last year, even if last year was record breaking profits. If you’re the one or few people who caused the stock to go down over moral responsibility when you are in charge you’re getting sued for not doing your fiduciary duty.
swimtwobird t1_je6vlxd wrote
Corporations in America. If apple tried any of that crap in the EU they’d get nuked from orbit.
ukezi t1_je6xjre wrote
Tesla tried in their German plant. The union and courts were not impressed at all.
swimtwobird t1_je6xwe6 wrote
Yeah Germany is the last place on earth you should try any of that. They will drop kick you.
Psychotrip t1_je76ef0 wrote
And yet the EU is fine reaping the fruit of rotten labor just like America. Makes no difference.
Psychotrip t1_je75rcv wrote
I mean we could dismantle the literal dystopian megacorps we've been brainwashed into thinking are helpful to us in any way. This whole economic system is poison and incentivizes sociopathy.
Medeski t1_je7e5tv wrote
That is the end game of capitalism.
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TheCh0rt t1_je8ga37 wrote
I’m currently using my iPad Pro as a dildo. Imagine how I feel reading this!
chockobumlick t1_je763n7 wrote
I have good instincts then. I black balled them when they off shored their money to avoid taxes
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Nach0Stallion t1_je7hl23 wrote
It’s sad, I enjoyed working there early days in red zone, but as soon as I entered a role with metrics the BS and knives in the back came out, it was like working at a highschool. One team member got spoken too because he mentioned a party in the break room and invited his friends and someone felt left out and reported as bullying Had the biggest shit eating grin when I handed them my resignation after 7 years. Perks were good, but that place was killing me. Stay safe internet friend.
xoraclez t1_je8cbam wrote
I refuse to buy or use crApple products for this and many, many other reasons, ethical and otherwise.
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