[deleted] t1_jdm82sx wrote on March 25, 2023 at 1:09 PM

Reply to comment by sorrynoreply in U.S. and China wage war beneath the waves - over internet cables by Global_Informant

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cookingboy t1_jdmaqyo wrote on March 25, 2023 at 1:32 PM

> Yes but at least they do ‘some’ policing and integration and keep the peace.

Our CIA literally overthrow a democratically elected government in South America and installed a dictatorship for the profit of one of our fruit companies for fuck’s sake.

Yes we do policing to insure our national interest.

And “keep the peace”? Were you being sarcastic since we are “celebrating” the 20th anniversary of the Iraqi invasion?

> Look what’s happening in Africa, local business is replaced with Chinese only working ones.

The impact of Chinese investment in Africa has multitudes of effects, most of them complex and there are good things and bad things that come out of them. But at the end of the day many countries still benefit overall from influx of capital and the amount of infrastructure that was built over the years wouldn’t be there without the Chinese investment.

For example a large portion of Africa now has access to internet due to the Chinese building cellular tower infrastructures. They are a continent that skipped PC and went straight to smartphones + mobile internet.

In contrary, what has the Western countries done for Africa during the period they were far wealthier and more influential than China is today?

peadith t1_jdmfnd6 wrote on March 25, 2023 at 2:13 PM

The networking infrastructure is undoubtedly beneficial but I wonder about the ecological quality of the mining and extraction business going in. Is China really trying to improve Africa or just move their dirty stuff to a poorer place. Will it all get maintained and will China make sure everyone gets paid as promised? That remains to be seen.

cookingboy t1_jdmmi4n wrote on March 25, 2023 at 3:05 PM

> Is China really trying to improve Africa or just move their dirty stuff to a poorer place.

Both. China wants allies in the global south and it would benefit them if those allies get stronger economically, especially if they do so with China’s help.

Same reason with the U.S Marshall plan after WW2 right? We wanted to help the Europeans to recover, but a big reason is so we can have strong allies to fight against the Soviets.

peadith t1_jdmnpr2 wrote on March 25, 2023 at 3:13 PM

I don't think African nations are really all that interested in Chinese politics. I'm sure they're looking closely at the development promised. As you well described, they know how it's been worked in the past.