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Rohit901 t1_jc9cdnr wrote

I find bing to be underwhelming even though it uses gpt 4. Maybe because it’s tuned for search but most of the time it’s answers are pretty short and doesn’t go in depth as GPT 3.5. For technical or math problems as well bing doesn’t try to solve it properly.. which is frustrating

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Mapmaker51 t1_jc9h9lu wrote

It isn't or it's a heavily modified version of GPT4 to the point where it's not GPT4, I remember openAI cofounder got asked about it, he said basically that Microsoft can call it whatever they want, MS is too big of a partner and they are just letting MS said whatever they want, it's not GPT4, I tried making it do a simple interface in warcraft 3 Jass and it didn't even attempt to do it, even GPT 3.5 on chat.openai does it, let alone GPT 4, MS is bullshitting.

That or they really are minimizing the amount of actual thought the bot uses and mostly just purely searching on bing for answers and if it doesn't find it it just tells you no.

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Rohit901 t1_jc9hr90 wrote

Exactly I agree with you here. The performance of bing has been seriously underwhelming compared to just the standard Chat GPT, hence even though I have access to bing, I've got the chatGPT plus to try out GPT-4.. I think it should be much better than Bing.

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seweso t1_jc9usa9 wrote

Bing chat seems to be something in between 3.5 and 4... but also with a bigger but worse dataset or something.

Edit: I was wrong, bing uses gpt 4.

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elehman839 t1_jcb9vwd wrote

I suspect Microsoft faces a conundrum:

  • They want to use GPT models to convince more people to use Bing in hopes of getting billions in ad revenue.
  • But operating GPT models is insanely compute-intensive. I bet every GPU they can find is already running cook-eggs hot, and they are asking employees to rummage around in toyboxes at home for old solar-powered calculators to get a few more FLOPs.
  • Given this compute situation, as more people use Bing, they will have to increasingly dumb down the underlying GPT model.
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CactusSmackedus t1_jcdmxe8 wrote

Bing kicks ass lol, I can get quick and easy citations of USC if I know vaguely what I'm looking for, find papers way easier than scholar search if again I vaguely know what I want, get pointed to the correct philosophical concepts (and even have a philosophical discussion with it), I mean really it's the best way to find stuff on the web right now.

Just tell it what you're looking for and voila

Also a great quick reference for games, although as you can expect it's better at knowing things about newer, popular games.

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