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vgiz t1_jaab1br wrote

Reply to comment by LiberalFartsMajor in AI Art Just Got Slapped With A Crucial And Devasting Legal Blow by Skullpt-Art

All art is derivative.

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skychasezone t1_jaadanh wrote

How did it start then?

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cantwejustbefiends t1_jaaf18y wrote

Stick figures on cave walls.

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vgiz t1_jaahuxq wrote

Cave wall - history’s primal gallery.

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Kromgar t1_jaaylq1 wrote

But first they saw stick figures in clouds because pareidolia

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skychasezone t1_jabgda0 wrote

but if all art is derivative where'd that come from? Can we say that only the cave drawings are truly unique?

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DCsh_ t1_jacgdmf wrote

A cave painting of a horse will have been made by someone who has seen a horse. Fundamentally information has to come from somewhere, yet often the expectation set on AI seems to be "it's derivative because it can only draw a horse due to having a horse in its training set".

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Quantum-traveler88 t1_jabvvi9 wrote

This is a fact which nobody can argue. Everything is a remix. There is never truly original art and never will be.

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Ronny_Jotten t1_jachoga wrote

Whenever someone says "this is a fact which nobody can argue", it almost always turns out to be arguable.

The idea that "there is nothing new under the sun" is itself a tired, old idea from the Bible. It represents an ancient view that everything in life and the world is just a cycle that repeats. It leaves no room for progress or innovation.

Original creativity is an essential ingredient in art. Maybe nothing is one hundred percent original, but it's still important to talk about whether, and to what extent, an artist's work brings something original to life. If something is one hundred percent a remix of old ideas, then it's not good art.

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