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ARobertNotABob t1_j9tj7ks wrote

Reply to comment by fardough in Fourth Circuit: Individuals Have a First Amendment Right to Livestream Their Own Traffic Stops by mepper

I started watching The Rookie this week. OK, yes, I know it's a TV show, but cops knowledge of Laws and Procedures is shown as a literal bedrock, foundation, "where's your Rook Book?" being a repeated line.

Equally though, I'm also aware that cops are put on your streets with mere weeks of training; when was the last time you started a job where you just knew all the rules?

The whole thing seems like a bumblebee ... it shouldn't fly, and yet, somehow ...

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amibeingadick420 t1_j9topf7 wrote

Heien v. North Carolina established that police don’t have to ow the laws, and if they pull you over for something that isn’t illegal because of their ignorance, then that is still a valid stop.

But, just to be clear, for the rest of us citizens, ignorance of the law is not an excuse.

If government enforcers can make up laws, it is clear that laws, including the Bill of Rights which supposedly protects our rights, mean nothing. America is fucked. Likewise, fuck America.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heien_v._North_Carolina

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WillBottomForBanana t1_j9ucuti wrote

Bonus bizarre point. Any other fed/state/local employee that I know of has to know the laws regarding their job and ignorance is literally not an excuse.

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ericmm76 t1_j9udl4o wrote

Whats worse is that when you are being mistreated wrongly you need to be PERFECT. Any expression of frustration anger or god forbid correction is dangerous for you.

Especially if you're not white.

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fardough t1_j9vozgx wrote

I see your point to a degree. No one is perfect and everyone makes mistakes.

The problem is these are enforcers of the law who can kill with impunity. The expectation should be as high as the risk. If you have the power of life and death, then you are expected to never get it wrong. If you can put an innocent person into prison, then it better be accurate. I agree here there is likely a line, mistaking similar statutes versus making up a law

On your first day at a new engineering job, they don’t give you root access to the main application and let you go at it. No, you have to show competence to gain that privilege, and every engineer knows if they delete main, then that is more than likely their job.

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