Submitted by psychothumbs t3_11406sq in technology
Bringbackdexter t1_j8vbzt1 wrote
Reply to comment by saanity in Tesla Workers Announced a Union Drive. The Next Day They Were Fired. by psychothumbs
What’s concerning is no one is thinking about where this leads. A dystopia where the rich rule with an iron fist and their word is law.
Absoniter t1_j8vxic9 wrote
Leads? We're already there.
Socky_McPuppet t1_j8wboqb wrote
> What’s concerning is no one is thinking about where this leads.
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
Conservatives have not only thought about where this leads - they're the ones leading the charge.
> A dystopia where the rich rule with an iron fist and their word is law.
Yes - and they're fucking salivating.
HoneydewInMyAss t1_j8wenmj wrote
I'm a progressive, but this is a much worse situation than just the Republicans.
The democrats held both houses of congress for 2 years, during an unprecedented era of unionization, and they didn't do shit to help then....
People were unionizing at some of the largest corporations on earth (Amazon, Starbucks, etc.) And our "liberal" party just sat there.
Where was Biden, Harris, Pelosi, etc. When they were unionizing the Amazon factory in NYC?
Why didn't they pass ANY legislation to help them? They didn't even make a fucking speech!
Then, the Biden administration spit in the faces of those railworkers, and wouldn't even give then a measly 7 days of sick leave.
We have 2 conservative, anti-worker parties in our 2-party system.
I wish it was just one party, but working class Americans literally have to overcome both parties in our political systems and i don't even know how to go about that.
Corporations have us check-mated.
BarrySix t1_j8wi12f wrote
This is exactly how US politics looks from outside the US. You have a right wing party acting in the interests of the rich and a more right wing party acting in the interests of the rich and being a bit more militant about it. The far right party are always screaming at the right-wing party for being left-wing extremists.
Plus the whole "woke" thing which serves as little more than a distraction from the fact that the entire political system is biased towards the new lords and masters.
regalrecaller t1_j8x0phj wrote
What people don't understand is that this is simply the neoliberal economic theory as adopted by both major political parties.
HoneydewInMyAss t1_j8xd4jr wrote
This is exactly why Noam Chomsky spent his entire career attacking "liberal" parties in the US and Europe.
Conservative parties are allowed to entertain the entire spectrum of the right from moderate to far right ethnonationalists
While the liberal parties act as a limit for how left you can venture.
BILLCLINTONMASK t1_j8wgg0j wrote
Republicans are a man running at you with a knife saying "I'm going to stab you." Democrats are a man saying "I'm your friend" before stabbing you in the back.
MonitorPowerful5461 t1_j8wh74j wrote
No, they’re someone saying “I’m your friend” and hesitating to give you the knife.
Biden recently passed legislature increasing funding for the NRLB, the organisation dedicated to prosecuting illegal union-busting. That is not much yet, but it’s important help, definitely not stabbing in the back.
xabhax t1_j8wkspr wrote
He gave funding to the nrlb, and didn’t give them the power to impose penalties? What good is money if they can’t impose fines?
MiaowaraShiro t1_j8wvejp wrote
"I don't understand the limitations of the executive branch."
Because he literally can't. It requires legislation.
HoneydewInMyAss t1_j8xdi3k wrote
...the democratic party held both houses of congress.
They didn't pass worker reform
They didn't pass judicial reform
They didn't pass election reform
They didn't pass weed decriminalization
They didn't end qualified immunity
They didn't end gerrymandering
Seriously, we all went out there and voted the democrats into power in 2020, we gave them both houses of congress, and we got NOTHING.
I just can't believe people are still this naive. You saw it with your own eyes!
MiaowaraShiro t1_j8xe23u wrote
OK, but we were talking about Biden specifically.
I get your frustration and I feel it too. However you're being imprecise in who you blame.
If you want to blame anyone for lack of legislative progress look at Manchin and Sinema. If you think those two represent the party as a whole you're going to have a hard time with me taking you seriously.
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MiaowaraShiro t1_j8xybkf wrote
You're aware that right now, he's the President, right? And right now is what we're talking about?
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MiaowaraShiro t1_j8yh62v wrote
No, you're putting words in my mouth...
I'm saying that if you want to change the law, appealing to Biden, in the executive branch, isn't going to get you very far.
Electric_Wizard84 t1_j8x4ulq wrote
Keeping up appearances
ron_fendo t1_j90fsiw wrote
This, i said the same thing during the 2016 election, Trump was a wolf and we all knew it, Clinton was a wolf dressed up like a sheep and only half of us knew it.
IvorTheEngine t1_j8xhaea wrote
That's the nature of a two party system. You get more votes if you position yourself fairly close to the other party. That way you get a bigger share of the 'middle of the road' voters.
If the democrats were any more left-wing, they'd get fewer votes.
You don't get to vote for someone you like, just the party you dislike least.
teeny_tina t1_j8wnvx1 wrote
ah yes the both sides are the same argument. you dressed it up more convincingly than the usual suspects do tho so kudos for that.
edit: simplified my comment
HoneydewInMyAss t1_j8xdy75 wrote
Who said both sides are the same?
You built that strawman, genius.
The democrats are socially liberal, but economic conservatives.
The Republican are socially conservative, and economic conservatives
We don't even have the option for economic liberals
Stay stupid, I don't care. I can't educate you if you won't open your eyes.
Financial_Pie5350 t1_j8xpzw5 wrote
The reason Democrats don’t do anything about things they claim to care about like crime, working people, or the Dreamers when they’re in power is that they only pretend to care about those things for votes. Successfully, I might add. In reality, they are taking in more in campaign money from large companies than the Republicans are. They are just better liars.
evolving_I t1_j8vh4zq wrote
Pretty sure I played that Simpsons game on Gameboy back in the 90s
Saneless t1_j8wlm08 wrote
Worse, the people who will be most affected negatively cheer it on and vote for people who support it
blibblub t1_j8wr71b wrote
Nobody cares because a ton of people own tesla stock and care about their stock more than what’s good for the country
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