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HanaBothWays t1_j9vdvhp wrote

Is this about the hacker who did a data dump on his ransomware gang over a pay dispute or something different?

EDIT: okay, read the article, this is something different. But there was a hacker for a ransomware group (I forget if it was Conti or some other group) who basically published all their internal data online because he was upset with the crappy pay and working conditions they imposed on him.

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realmastodon2 t1_j9vs20q wrote

Imagine using ransonware on ransomware gangs.

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HanaBothWays t1_j9vslot wrote

I bet it’s already happened! There are lots of ransomware gangs and only so many potential victims. Different gangs’ “products” will delete other gangs’ malware. They almost certainly hack each other.

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LazyLich t1_j9yx6r3 wrote

Whoa.... it's like how cancers in whales can also get cancer, so you have tumors parasitizing tumors, and so whales live on.

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klumze t1_j9wm7d8 wrote

Imagine being upset your don’t get a big enough cut of someone else’s stolen money. This world sucks.

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xyzone t1_j9x8ows wrote

>Imagine being upset your don’t get a big enough cut of someone else’s stolen money.

Sounds like Wall Street screaming against regulation.

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biblecrumble t1_j9wejss wrote

It was probably for Conti, they had a leak a while ago and what it showed is that they are CRAZY well organized and basically work as a regular business

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HanaBothWays t1_j9wf3sk wrote

I think all that stuff having to do with Conti is in the past tense now.

Although like certain businesses do, they may return under a different branding.

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Ok-Welder-4816 t1_j9wd99a wrote

Should have given it to the feds instead, so he could at least get immunity. Unless he's in a country where it doesn't matter...

Even if you're not American, if your government has given you immunity, I don't think you can be extradited for the same crime. Your government would just refuse the request.

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A1kmm t1_j9wwzic wrote

Although attributing ransomware is difficult, everything that has been leaked and is public suggests most of the perpetrators are in CSTO (i.e. Russia-allied) countries that actually at least informally encourage attacks on non-CSTO countries. Leaked policies from criminal organisations suggest they generally do not target victims in CSTO countries. CSTO countries rarely have extradition treaties outside the CSTO - no CSTO country has an extradition treaty with the United States, for example. Sometimes authorities do work together when they are aligned despite the absence of a treaty (e.g. Armenia has extradited to the US before) - but that is unlikely to happen for ransomware criminals that only target victims outside the CSTO.

So I don't think they need immunity from their own government, and they don't fear extradition as long as they don't go to a non-CSTO country. Sometimes they do travel overseas and find out that the government tolerance for their activities doesn't extend outside the CSTO.

Data leaks from criminal organisations to non-CSTO governments (in combination with things the governments collect themselves and share) are likely very helpful in ensuring the criminals are likely to be picked up if they do travel.

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HanaBothWays t1_j9wevt8 wrote

> Even if you’re not American, if your government has given you immunity, I don’t think you can be extradited for the same crime. Your government would just refuse the request.

Depends which government it is! Some of them absolutely would.

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