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9-11GaveMe5G t1_j9dijmb wrote

> >We've seen some other propositions. The problem is that they all end in immiseration and authoritarianism,

Hey I don't know if you noticed, but the last president, who is on the record as a huge fan of authoritarians like Putin and Kim jong Un, literally tried a fascist takeover of our country, which would have installed him as the authoritarian leader. So if "authoritarianism" scares you, simping for capitalism ain't the way to prevent it

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Adorable-Effective-2 t1_j9e098h wrote

Pretending the dangers of authoritarianism we’ve seen recently somehow equals the historical INSTANT fall into dictatorships we’ve seen out of any planned economic states ie “communist” ones

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VelveteenAmbush t1_j9dk32x wrote

An alternative take is that even with a nutty would-be authoritarian president who literally tried to overturn an election, the system was resilient enough to toss him out of power right on time, with no indications that he came anywhere close to succeeding.

But yes, I agree that Kim Jong-Un is a good example of what you get with alternatives to capitalism.

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