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genmischief t1_j4s18cz wrote

Reply to comment by Trixxxxxi in Springfield needs to step up! Patriot Front is taking over and mocking our city. by Upper_Case_655

>I saw one sticker once at a gas station and that's it.
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>If you see a sticker remove it and move on with your life.

Or just, move on with your life and let the property owners deal with it as they see fit?

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banjomin t1_j4s1ktt wrote

Nah, it’s every citizen’s responsibility to oppose fascism.

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Trixxxxxi t1_j4s24g7 wrote

I agree with this, but also these posts are what they want. Makes it look like it's some big movement taking over when it's just some limp dicked loser putting up stickers places he goes.

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banjomin t1_j4s43p1 wrote

Yeah, every fascist will say that opposing what they’re doing is the wrong thing to do. It’s just part of being a fascist.

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Jimithyashford t1_j4tn3v6 wrote

Or….do your small part or oppose fascism. Ya know…like a decent sensible morally sane human being.

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TapdotWater t1_j4uaz2r wrote

Un-American Attitude. Nazism is a traitor's ideology: if you see something, you do something.

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genmischief t1_j4wd0fl wrote

Spoken like a true keyboard warrior.

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TapdotWater t1_j4wfuha wrote

You're literally advocating for inaction, hypocrite lmfao

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genmischief t1_j4wy0o7 wrote

You're literally saying removing a sticker will make a difference. How can you come to that conclusion? I suppose you then would advocate to slather OTHER stickers you agree with on more private property?

In the end, the guy who owns the property is the one left with everything covered in stickers. Thats the only change that will happen.

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TapdotWater t1_j4wze85 wrote

I didn't say tearing down a sticker would make a difference, I said it is your duty as an American citizen to always act against nazism and other ideologies hostile to our values and political system. That means tearing down stickers, protesting & counter protesting, voting, and if it comes down to it, exercising your 2nd Amendment Rights to their fullest extent to ensure the continuation of Democracy.

Or, you can sit back and let the rest of us do it--thats perfectly fine, you don't want to stick your neck out and do something with yourself, I get it. That's risky. It's much safer to be apathetic, to be acted upon by the world. Carry on as you will, but you shouldn't try and convince other people that the Coward's Lifestyle is superior. At best, you just come off as looking like a boring moderate who just repeats talking points you've picked up on NPR, and not a lot of people find folk like that interesting.

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genmischief t1_j4x1sr5 wrote

>other ideologies hostile to our values as a nation.

You hit on something there. This is entirely perspective based.

You see, I think fascists, anti-fascists, extreme right and left... their ALL morons.

We beat the nazi's. They aren't back. The allies beat them SO BADLY that they are STILL IN HIDING in Brazil, dying off. What we have in the US, those aren't NAZIs. I mean, they say they are NAZI's but the actual NAZIs would have shot them on sight. First... we had the brownshirts. People who preyed upon the people of the time and either allied them up, or targeted them.

Do you know where the NAZIs came from? We got the brownshirts, then crystalnacht, and then finally the National Socialist Workers Party who lead to a military power through petty payback and overreaching intolerance from the closure of WW1.

The Treaty of Versais. Germany got squeezed for EVERY THING THEY COULD GET OUT OF THEM. It created a nation of people who couldnt afford housing, decent educations, and highly volitle uncertain futures. Then add to that all of the single parent households after their young men and husbands died in the trenches of France to American, French, and English forces. (by the way, does this sound familiar at all? Single parent homes, rampant inequality, low wages and sketchy education?)

So these people and their position created by the war and the treaty, used that treaty as a rallying cry. Proud people who needed something to beleive in and be a part of, a way to rebuild. I think you probably know the rest worked out... Dont forget ole hitler was the Time magazine Man of the Year at one point. ;)

(if your inclined to pay the money, this is a FANTASTIC product which discusses a great deal of that history)

Now, NEO-Nazis.... what we have are a bunch of nonces who THINK they are NAZIs, but are ineffectual, unpalatable, and mostly irreedemable. They are problematic, and can do harm on a small scale, but for the most part they are a symptom of the times. There is no WAY these guys will ever form a military, a viable political party (or coop one), or an anyway affect the world in a meaningful way as an organzation. Anyone who is smart enough to actually start organzign something at that scale is going to be smart enough to understand how tragically flawed that idelogical path really is.

Domestic Terrorism, of course, is a whole different animal where one person can appear as much more. But I digress, different topic, different time. :)

Does any of this help illustrate why A:) I'm, sick to death of the whole thing and B:) I find the idea of peeling a sticker being my American duty to be utterly laughable?

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