The Toe Shit

Submitted by bazookatooff t3_11z6qwr in springfieldMO

Starting to notice a pattern in which that church finds something crazy like this to create a media frenzy. They know they’re gonna get roasted by a bunch of folks who weren’t believers anyway but the true godheads will get to say they’re persecuted. Kind of a reverse Nike Kaep situation. A church that big definitely has a media team. Pretty easy to swoop in with some wild shit to beef up the website with links and get a bunch of brand awareness. So by sharing it and being outraged people are probably feeding into exactly what they want.

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Cloud_Disconnected t1_jdba7uf wrote

There's no use tiptoeing around it, they've really stepped in it this time. That pastor sure put his foot in his mouth. From now on they're going to have to toe the line, and put their best foot forward.

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karmabumb t1_jdbbtly wrote

All because they got cold feet when people asked for photoes.

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Kusnider t1_jdcl9y6 wrote

I will pray for both your soles. This feet was a miracle. 🙃

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Jason355f1 t1_jdbpi5r wrote

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Maybe he could shoot off his own toes, and then pray about it.

It would go a long way into redeeming peoples faith.

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Fantastic_Mind_1386 t1_jdci36i wrote

If they could prove that it happened they would. Plain and simple. It is the ultimate marketing strategy for their church. Imagine how many new members they would have willing to donate thousands of dollars a year to their church if they could prove a miracle like this. To OPs point though, they don’t have to prove anything because there are desperate people out there, people whose kids have terminal diseases or incurable diseases themselves, who are willing to throw money at the church because they need a miracle. All of this media attention and attention from the community is costing them nothing so every time a believer now chooses James River over a doctor they make pure profit.

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Fantastic_Mind_1386 t1_jdchpbb wrote

It wouldn’t surprise me if you’re right. It costs James River nothing for this attention so if even one person joins their church it’s pure profit.

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LeaveReligion t1_jdb99no wrote

I get what you’re saying but I think the toe scandal just happened to go viral based on a lot of different factors. There have been claims of many more medical miracles occurring during services for months. Maybe years. A kid who’s metal plate in his skull dissolved. A person who’s leg grew. Diseases healed. Lots of shit.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like James River. But I don’t think they’re as malicious as you make them out to be.

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PassingWithJennifer t1_jdbh8vk wrote

I kind of feel like selling desperate people a lie of curative magic through faith is morally wrong though. I remember reading about a baby whose teeth almost completely rotted out because the mom feared fluoride, dentists, and bought into new age conspiracy stuff.

There are many, many cases of people being sucked into things that mislead them because they are hurt and desperate for help. I think the fact they even fabricate lies like this is at least knowingly manipulative if not nefarious and reflects on their character. Do they think their congregation is stupid? Is this supposed to be some moral lesson about false prophets? Like how do you spin this type of behavior in a good light?

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LeaveReligion t1_jdbizc2 wrote

Seems like a fundamental difference is they believe in miracles and you don’t. People believe what they want to. It fits their narrative. It’s a damaging narrative and it’s only going to escalate from here.

Edited to add: the original post was about James River drumming up a media frenzy and my point was that’s not true. I’m not doing any spinning. You only know parts of the story.

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PassingWithJennifer t1_jdbvovm wrote

I am also Christian but you are correct I do not believe this at all. I believe they are manipulating q vulnerable people who wish to be healed and I'm sure theyv3 prayed and longed for it hmmm?

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bazookatooff OP t1_jdca665 wrote

Could be. My guess is that they wouldn’t see it as malicious.

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