Submitted by SirBonafarte_ t3_11apl1w in springfieldMO
elaborate_hoxha t1_j9tvvn7 wrote
So this is a glaring and MASSIVE failure by the mayor and city council (and their predecessors) to address this problem. This city council has paid lip service and ignored Christi and Connecting Grounds. And Arnott has the gall to say put people in her parking lot. SHE IS! And has for a long time and even her own home.
The current Sheriff, city council and mayor have got to go. Talk about kicking the can down the road. The new jail is full before they open. Ridiculous! And there are more and more people living on the streets everyday. It’s madness, and we keep giving them money for these useless punitive measures. It will not solve the problem!
Make funding available for (social, medical/mental health)services and low income housing in this area and the issues with homelessness and “criminals” will cease to be such a massive issue. And stick with it. Preventative not punitive.
Raise people up instead of kicking them when they’re down!
VaderTower t1_j9u615r wrote
The city has done a lot with Cristi. They've even set up a whole procedure for police to call the one cal number to have volunteers come out and assist homeless encampments 24-48 hours before they are removed.
Springfield isn't Greene county. The Sheriff is only controlled by the voters of Greene county. The Springfield city council and mayor have absolutely 100% no control over what the Sheriff does, and would be out of line if they started telling him what he should or could be doing.
Does the sheriff suck? Yup. But we continue to vote him in every few years.
As for how to solve homelessness. You're right we do need those measures in place, the problem as always, is we need to figure out how to pay for them. Either you take money from another program, or you tax the city/county. The city doesn't just have coffers of cash, like almost all organizations they run pretty budget neutral, as they should.
hystericallymad t1_j9w2e1e wrote
I have this crazy idea, and it doesn't involve buying a baseball park...
Cold417 t1_j9wiky3 wrote
The one paying for itself?
22TopShelf22 t1_j9vkwc5 wrote
It will never be enough for the nimbys here. They would like to treat the homeless, many of who aren't from here, better than the law abiding, tax paying citizens. They're not able to realize that without law abiding, tax paying citizens that helping them at all would not be possible.
If I owned land, I would not want a homeless encampment on it. Who would, except for the nimbys here?
hystericallymad t1_j9w2oej wrote
Do... Do you know? No. No I don't think you do. Tell us all, what is nimby. I already know. But I don't believe you do
XzallionTheRed t1_j9wzql7 wrote
Understand they know what NIMBY stands for, but it also applies to people that don't own the land and aren't offering it themselves. As in "Sure encamp on so-and-so's land, its not hurting anyone" while you don't have a yard, or give a homeless person room in a spare bedroom. Everyones free with other peoples backyard, while not in theirs. I don't want them in my backyard, and neither would they if they have ever had to put up with it.
the_honeyman t1_j9z01df wrote
We want them to be treated like human beings. Period. Your exaggerated, condescending attempts to paint people who want other people to be treated like people are as transparent as your attempts to make advocates out as naive idealists.
Go peddle your bullshit somewhere else, or come be a part of the solution. As it stands, you're the dude standing in the middle of the road bitching about cars wanting special treatment.
22TopShelf22 t1_j9zw53h wrote
So, let me get this right, I'm being insulted by a homeless person because I don't think they have the right to.go onto.other people's property and act like they own it.
22TopShelf22 t1_j9zwlqf wrote
Get a job. Stop doing drugs. Get your life together. You're putting words in my mouth so you can be a victim. I never said homeless people weren't people, you did. What gives homeless people the right to live on someone else's property? Ditching used needles and leaving it to look like a landfill? And the land owner that doesn't allow it is a bad person? Get real buddy
the_honeyman t1_j9zze7f wrote
Make more assumptions. Exaggerate more. It really brings out the clown in your makeup.
22TopShelf22 t1_ja03mrt wrote
Lolz. Thanks for the laugh. Its not too late to turn your life around and be a productive member of society.
the_honeyman t1_ja05zsh wrote
You mean I could grow up to be just like you?!
22TopShelf22 t1_ja07yhg wrote
I'm going to have to get back to work and check out of this waste of time. I honestly do wish the best for you and hope you're able to turn things around. Ffs were probably sitting next to each other right now.
MrZanzinger t1_j9um4xh wrote
i pretty sure the new jail is full of federal inmates because they get paid $20 more per day to house them to the tune of 2 million more a year. Daily Citizen article about it.
Low_Tourist t1_j9vht60 wrote
We need more mid range housing in the area. Not low income and not the luxury apartments. The problem is that these midrange places are like "2 bedrooms? I have 2 bedrooms! I can charge $1700 too!" even though they don't have the amenities or finishes of the newer places.
22TopShelf22 t1_j9vl1yd wrote
The mid range housing would go on the north side st the development the nimbys up north are fighting!!! The need is great, but even north siders think they're too good for modest housing!!!
PanicKindly3401 t1_j9wepqn wrote
"even Northsiders" I beg your fvkn pardon!
the_honeyman t1_j9z0fs1 wrote
Lmao you're a real piece of work. The reason homeless services go on the north side is because we haven't lost all semblance of humanity up here while still pretending to be better than everyone else. Keep your pretentious ass and your rose smelling bullshit far away from the actual human beings who just want to help.
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