This is where we are conflicted as individuals. I feel the tone of your comment as someone who is quite a bit younger than me, and has a sense of duty towards society.

As someone who is on the short side of 70, I don't have any feelings of any sacrifice on a personal level for society in any way shape or form.

My wife and I have worked very hard for what we have. There were times in our life when we hit some rough spots and asked for a little help to get us by. We were basically given the middle finger because we made just enough to pay our bills but not enough to buy groceries .

We managed to Make it dispite no help from anyone, unless we were willing to completely get rid of everything we owned or had, and start over completely from scratch on the government level. But we were the ones who gave the government the middle finger and managed to get through those hard times, and survive to make it to retirement age and be able to live comfortably completely and entirely on our own.

We have property and a home outside of Springfield that we own, and oh nothing on. We're in a very good situation, better than most. The only thing we owe is property tax this is a bit of background for better understanding of my position.

Where we live the chance of imminent domain is probably zero to none, but if I were forced to sell, I could see myself pushed to violence.

Ah I digress, my point is I have worked my entire life for me and no one else and when needed a little help, we were givin non. There were a couple of other times society/city/local government tried to Hammer us but we survived.

I have no feelings or allegiance to society, or anyone else but me. Thank you for the conversation,