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erichkutslilpp t1_j7ttxln wrote

Reply to comment by Cold417 in Neighbors In North Springfield Voice Concerns Over Proposed Development by Realistic-Sun3480

Its pretty humorous people try to use 'nimby' as an insult. Especially considering virtually no one wants an apartment complex, or walmart, or dog park built right next to their house. The people constantly complaining about 'nimbys' are just hypocrites who have thus far been lucky with their housing location.

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blu3dice t1_j7u1461 wrote

>or walmart,

Virtually no one? Plenty of folks without reliable transportation or that live in food deserts welcome new stores with access to fresh fruits, veggies and meat. Being able to walk and not depend on public transportation or expensive taxis to haul your groceries home.

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erichkutslilpp t1_j7u1e94 wrote

You are completely naive if you think anyone wants a walmart built right next to their house. A block or two away? Sure, plenty of people would probably like that.

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throwawayyyycuk t1_j7uve7h wrote

I would like to not live in a food desert, and I would prefer that the food locations not be neighborhood Walmarts, but that is asking a lot here

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Television_Wise t1_j7vmire wrote

>anyone wants a walmart built right next to their house.

If given the choice almost no one wants anything right next to their house, they'd prefer a buffer area of nature. So that's not a Walmart or apartment building specific thing. Dude in the article is mad he's losing his nature buffer. If it was a ranch house being built there he'd still be pissed and complaining, but no one would care or quote him in an article.

Me, if somethings got to go next to where I live, I prefer the Walmart. At least it's useful to me and Walmart won't regularly drag heaps of trash into the open to burn on their lawn like multiple single family home-owners have done near me in the past...

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laffingriver t1_j7uaohl wrote

are they building a walmart here? get out of here with your strawman nonsense.

its a small apartment complex, single family homes for purchase, and a small park on an otherwise untaxed piece of church realestate.

this will help the housing shortage and bring revenue to the city so we can invest in Your neighborhood.

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pjcanfield8 t1_j7uerst wrote

Me and many others do use NIMBY as insult. They are a group of property owners with way too much free time that they can use to go yell at city counsel meetings because they’re scared to see their neighborhood change (the poor or POC moving in) or a negative affect on their investment. It’s the exact kind of mindset that’s only going to keep getting single family homes built. That isn’t going to help the housing crisis. I don’t need single family home. I need a studio apartment which is hard to find in the Springfield area for a reasonable rate. We need more density and less sprawl for many reasons. Nimbyism and it’s effects are one of the biggest drivers of the housing crisis

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VaderTower t1_j7xd79v wrote

Say it loud for the people in the back!

We must build higher density housing to solve the housing crisis, and frankly bring down prices.

Why are apartments and rentals so costly? Because the demand is high and the supply is low. Saturate the market with supply and the demand falls out, cheaper housing.

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erichkutslilpp t1_j7ujdvs wrote

> That isn’t going to help the housing crisis

What housing crisis? In the last 10 years, Springfield has increased the number of housing units 7.5% while the population has risen just 6.5%. And many of those new housing units are multiple bedroom units.

The 'crisis' you might be feeling is one that revolves around our currency. You guys didn't like hearing it when the money was being passed out during covid and many still refuse to believe it. But creating 40% more currency out of thin air in less than 2 years is going to cause problems. Which you are feeling now in the form of higher rent. I sure wish economics were stressed more in school, as many people seem completely ignorant.

edit: ah the old ostrich downovtes without a logical response. Nice.

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throwawayyyycuk t1_j7uw6gy wrote

I will respond, yes you’re right, Springfield specifically has no shortage of places to live! That’s actually one awesome thing about living here that I appreciate.

However, we are still effected by the disproportionate increases to rent versus minimum wage, and I’m not saying it’s the fault of anyone, but the people making the least money are still out of luck when it comes to finding an affordable apartment, let alone a house to buy. My point is that it is better in Springfield and the gap is smaller than many places in the country, but it’s still there and people are still struggling.

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laffingriver t1_j7uuxnm wrote

“cause problems”. please tell us in plain english, like we are a five year old,

how $1400 checks from 2 years ago have anything to do with rent prices today, or how those checks affected home inventories.

use specifics, draw a direct line. and then do us a favor and tell us what that has to do with this development.

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Television_Wise t1_j7vm26g wrote

>or walmart

Having lived near a Walmart, it's actually pretty sweet. It's so convenient when you need something for a recipe you're out of, or you don't feel like cooking and want to pick up a pre-made salad.

If you're thinking "but the noise", what noise? Even the 24 hours ones never had much traffic late at night, which is when you need quiet, and none of them are 24 hour now anyway.

I agree with the point you were trying to make, but I think you have the wrong idea about why Walmarts get NIMBY'd. Usually it's people trying to protect local grocery stores and small businesses closing as a result of Walmart taking their customers.

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