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kushtiannn t1_j5wd2tg wrote

“Got a loicense for that opinion, m8?”

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faste30 t1_j5wr695 wrote

Give them the russian treatment, they love it so much send them to the front lines.

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CommentWhileShitting t1_j5wrn5u wrote

For all our friends around the world, the convo went down like the:

"Now see here fuckwits, you fuckin' about with that nonsense at a fuckin' tennis game can fuck right off"

In all seriousness it's pathetic & disgusting, citizenship revoked and a giant fuck you boot up the arse for good measure.

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boogasaurus-lefts t1_j5wsano wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,497,876)

I don't think you'll find many civilised societies that enjoy folks who cheer war crimes & needless death.

> campos9896 Damn so just having a different opinion than the masses can lead to being questioned?

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mvillerob t1_j5x9o3k wrote

Send them back to Russia if they love Putin so much. The are probably spies anyways.

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lewger t1_j5xf38n wrote

Fuck em, strip them of citizenship like those ISIS fucks and send them to the front lines. Got no time for people who support genocide in this country.

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GinandTonicandLime t1_j5xfmc8 wrote

Replying to lewger (#1,500,897)

Oh, you’re not going to like it when you learn about Australian history (if we strip the citizenship of genocide supporters, there aren’t enough planes in the country to deport them all)

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Frosty_Gas_2070 t1_j5xgoxc wrote

Why are Russian and Belorussian athletes aloud to compete in the first place?? Even under a neutral flag, they just straight up shouldn’t be aloud to compete.

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raduuuuu t1_j5xln5j wrote

That's why banning athletes from Russia and Belarus actually makes sense. It's never about them personally, everybody is aware that it's not their fault and they (probably) don't support the war. However, sport was always used for propaganda and for pushing nationalism.

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adamthinks t1_j5xodc9 wrote

Apparently no one here read the article. The reason they were questioned by police is because they were threatening the security guards.

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magicsonar t1_j5xoitg wrote

Replying to lewger (#1,501,660)

From a First Nations perspective, it probably is. Genocide didn't end in 1901. There were at least 240 documented frontier massacres over a 140 year period, starting in 1794, as part of a state-sanctioned and organised attempt to eradicate Aboriginal people. Government forces were actively engaged in frontier massacres until at least the late 1920s. And then we have of course forced removals of Aboriginal children, which is considered a part of cultural genocide, which continued up until the 1970's. Linguist Arthur Capell wrote in 1964: "Government policy looks forward to the loss of Aboriginal languages so that the Aborigines may be 'assimilated'. So yeah, sadly from a First Nations perspective, the Australian flag would represent a state that was engaged in organised genocide.

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CommentWhileShitting t1_j5xqma3 wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,499,989)

If you bothered to read it's cheerleading of an invasion & needless death. They're detracting from the quality of life that many migrants and victims of war experience. Australia is a melting pot of these very people, to support war crimes says more about the calibre of the person than most traits.

Absolutely fuck those people off, I couldn't think of any place in the world that would invite these people into their communities.

Being an edgelord on this topic & arguing for it shows the level of stupidity you clearly don't see in yourself. One day you might wake up, maybe not but it's entirely up to you.

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The_Panic_Station t1_j5xt0rv wrote

Replying to Frosty_Gas_2070 (#1,501,048)

The Russian (and Belarussian) government would certainly prefer that their players were banned so that they could point fingers and say that the West are discriminating athletes purely because they were born in Russia.

All top players (Medvedev, Rublev, Sabalenka, Azarenka, Kasatkina, Kudermetova, Khachanov, Karatsev etc) have spoken negatively about the war. Do you think the Russian government supported newspapers are happy to report on that?

Here is a long interview with Rublev and Kasatkina, the two highest ranked Russian tennis players who both are amongst the best in the world. They live in Barcelona and travel the world playing on the ATP and WTA tour respectively. Kasatkina came out as gay when this interviewed aired, something that is heavily frowned upon in her native Russia. Rublev has been vocally against the war since day 1. He proposed that Russian and Ukrainan players could play together in doubles at Wimbledon as a statement towards Putin, but was declined by the tournament.

There is, in my opinion, an important difference between playing on the ATP/WTA tour where you only represent yourself, compared to playing the Davis Cup/Billie Jean Cup/Olympics where you represent your country. When you are an individual player you employ your own coaches, physios, psychologists, etc and travel around the world with them as your entourage. You're more like a small independent business. When you represent your country in international competitions you have to get support from the federation as they select you. That's why Russia and Belarus are banned from ITF, ATP and WTA competitions, but simply being Russian or Belarussian is not enough to suspend individuals.

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Mwakay t1_j5y4m0o wrote

Turns out they're just Novak fans.

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lewger t1_j5y54vl wrote

Replying to magicsonar (#1,501,817)

It's not a direct symbol of genocide and to compare it to the Russian's wearing Z's shows you are not arguing in good faith. If you want to keep posting drivel comparing the two I'm sure you can find a better audience in r/russia

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ZanyWayney t1_j5yco7s wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,498,073)

First off, they were questioned for threatening people. Secondly, you chose this to be your response? There is a point where tolerance must end. Your "to each their own" stance should end when the support being espoused is for real life murder and atrocity. Ya know, if Russia HADN'T begun a war to exterminate a sovereign nation, culture, and people I'd be on your side. "They have a right to their opinion and to support their nation". But the opinion they tout is one that threatens and removes the safety and security of others. That is not just an opinion. That is an oppression that should be confronted and stamped out. Support for Russia has no fucking place in free society any more. Your freedom ends where it erodes the freedoms of another.

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doughnutholio t1_j5yf34c wrote

Replying to APEHASKILLEDAPE (#1,504,159)

Naw you got it all wrong.

Might makes right, and if you are the mightiest, you are the rightiest!

Also, most of those so-called "innocents" were really just terrorists, or brainwashed plebs who didn't know freedom if it bit them in the ass. So their ass had to bitten off. For their own good of course ;)

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Pppoker_face t1_j5yhf3b wrote

Interesting account r/Captain_Smartass_

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SirBennettAtx t1_j5yhglm wrote

Replying to lewger (#1,500,897)

Holy shit. Strip them of citizenship for expressing an opinion!?!?

Edit: as a USA citizen who knows nothing about Australia, I’m very confused by the downvotes, is this common & accepted punishment for free speech down under?

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raduuuuu t1_j5z0x82 wrote

Replying to Jo__Jo__Jo (#1,507,259)

To answer your first question, it really is not. First argument is this very article, where supporters show up either way and start doing pro-war propaganda. Second argument is that sporting victories are consumed for propaganda internally in Russia, so removing the flag has absolutely no effect. As for your second question, it's a classic example of "whataboutism" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism) and I am not going to reply to it.

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raduuuuu t1_j5z21c9 wrote

Replying to Jo__Jo__Jo (#1,507,513)

Actually text book "whataboutism": "Common accusations include double standards, and hypocrisy, but it can also be used to relativize criticism of one's own viewpoints or behaviors. (A: "Long-term unemployment often means poverty in Germany." B: "And what about the starving in Africa and Asia?")."

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Jo__Jo__Jo t1_j5z2q1f wrote

Replying to raduuuuu (#1,507,574)

I haven’t brought something unrelated, I am talking about having a sustained stance on human rights. Should be broader than just punishing two nationalities. I understand it’s a touchy topic and most people from Europe/US feel like calling out bias is pointless, but I think there should be more principled approaches to human rights

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MynameisJunie t1_j5z46s8 wrote

WTAF? Why would they even be allowed in? To begin with the threatening, then their super inconspicuous attire, all red flags…C’mon Australia!!! You wouldn’t let that tennis play take a shit, but you allow this?

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Taser9001 t1_j5z9b8v wrote

Replying to britboy4321 (#1,506,858)

Freedom of speech is not the same as being free to be a piece of shit. Lawful authorities and governments have a duty to prohibit speech that is hateful, prejudiced and/or incites harassment/violence. Y'all need to stop using the free speech card to excuse yourselves from being assholes.

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britboy4321 t1_j5zaqsv wrote

Replying to Taser9001 (#1,508,517)

Of course freedom of speech is the same as being free to be a piece of shit. That's the entire point. Otherwise the authorities can define 'being a piece of shit' as whatever they want. For example as 'Slagging off the government'.

'Freedom of speech as long as it's the speech you like'. Jees - really?

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fanasup t1_j5zk17m wrote

Replying to Jo__Jo__Jo (#1,507,668)

Lol rly bro u have one flag that is almost exclusively used for propagating war while the two other r just flags that just represents country’s, and it’s not rly about the past is it when Russian is literally trying to take over a nation irl like rn..

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fanasup t1_j5znwc3 wrote

Replying to Jo__Jo__Jo (#1,509,983)

Lmao ya while the us gov push for war I don’t associate or think about war when I see the us flag and probably a lot of other people too, but if I see the Z flag I know for sure the guy holding it wants people dead

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fanasup t1_j5zvlvj wrote

Replying to Jo__Jo__Jo (#1,511,243)

Not rly changing the subject cuz that was my whole point from the start lmao if u think the way u do then u must hate every country then which basically means there’s no point even trying to have a discussion with u since u just hold the most basic opinion and provides nothing that everyone don’t already know

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Taser9001 t1_j60qjz3 wrote

Replying to britboy4321 (#1,508,712)

Yes, governments are capable of abusing it, and some do abuse it (ironically, Russia is one of the most corrupt and abusive governments on this front right now), but surely it is also the responsibility of authorities and governments to protect their citizens? If people are going to go round spouting stuff that promotes needless war and invasion, things that are costing thousands upon thousands of lives, why should they be allowed to do that? To say otherwise is to excuse racists, misogynists, transphobes, homophobes, nazis, Putin supporters, etc, and that is simply not acceptable.

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Fish_On_again t1_j60w6wl wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,513,003)

You don't want to talk about the very article you are commenting on, my dear deflector. Go ahead and speak about the world telling Russia and its' supporters to go to hell. Let's hear your thoughts on the topic at hand.

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britboy4321 t1_j60zpkq wrote

Replying to Taser9001 (#1,515,348)

It's a question of where to draw the line.

Whilst I know this isn't the story ..

Should I be allowed to go and stand in silence, donning a huge Russian flag and carrying a placard that says 'Ukraine has always been part of Russia'?

I'd argue that in a free country that should be acceptable. Otherwise, slippery slope and all that.

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Aelig_ t1_j67nc6n wrote

Replying to britboy4321 (#1,506,858)

Is the Australian open a government?

If not, freedom of speech doesn't apply. Besides, Russia is a terror state and supporting terrorism doesn't fall under freedom of speech. They're lucky if they are simply asked to leave.

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Aelig_ t1_j6ah6z6 wrote

Replying to britboy4321 (#1,563,361)

The UK has a constitution. It's not all written in a single document but it does have a constitution and a supreme court with the specific job to uphold this constitution.

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