Submitted by Captain_Smartass_ t3_10ldppt in sports
raduuuuu t1_j5z0x82 wrote
Reply to comment by Jo__Jo__Jo in Australian Open spectators supporting Russian invasion questioned by police by Captain_Smartass_
To answer your first question, it really is not. First argument is this very article, where supporters show up either way and start doing pro-war propaganda. Second argument is that sporting victories are consumed for propaganda internally in Russia, so removing the flag has absolutely no effect. As for your second question, it's a classic example of "whataboutism" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism) and I am not going to reply to it.
Jo__Jo__Jo t1_j5z1jb4 wrote
Not whataboutism, more pointing bias. I think all invasions should be punished, and hypocrisy needs to be called out
raduuuuu t1_j5z21c9 wrote
Actually text book "whataboutism": "Common accusations include double standards, and hypocrisy, but it can also be used to relativize criticism of one's own viewpoints or behaviors. (A: "Long-term unemployment often means poverty in Germany." B: "And what about the starving in Africa and Asia?")."
Jo__Jo__Jo t1_j5z2q1f wrote
I haven’t brought something unrelated, I am talking about having a sustained stance on human rights. Should be broader than just punishing two nationalities. I understand it’s a touchy topic and most people from Europe/US feel like calling out bias is pointless, but I think there should be more principled approaches to human rights
fanasup t1_j5zk17m wrote
Lol rly bro u have one flag that is almost exclusively used for propagating war while the two other r just flags that just represents country’s, and it’s not rly about the past is it when Russian is literally trying to take over a nation irl like rn..
Jo__Jo__Jo t1_j5zl1pg wrote
😂 you do understand you’re accidentally referencing the American flag. Nobody can own you if you own yourself, touché
fanasup t1_j5znwc3 wrote
Lmao ya while the us gov push for war I don’t associate or think about war when I see the us flag and probably a lot of other people too, but if I see the Z flag I know for sure the guy holding it wants people dead
Jo__Jo__Jo t1_j5zqd5d wrote
Ask those bombed by the US if they think of war when they see the flag
fanasup t1_j5zurxg wrote
Ok but that doesn’t change the fact that what matters is the intention behind the holder of the flag
Jo__Jo__Jo t1_j5zvbod wrote
On that we can agree, but nice try changing the subject
fanasup t1_j5zvlvj wrote
Not rly changing the subject cuz that was my whole point from the start lmao if u think the way u do then u must hate every country then which basically means there’s no point even trying to have a discussion with u since u just hold the most basic opinion and provides nothing that everyone don’t already know
Jo__Jo__Jo t1_j5zw76m wrote
Too late not to have a discussion with me champ!
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