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DelugeQc t1_j5ve0ns wrote

Why tho?! Just ban them from competing... What an half-ass punishment tbh...

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joebro2022 t1_j5vgm1d wrote

IOC can't just go banning athletes of countries because of the crimes their government commited. Very few countries would be left

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paulc899 t1_j5vl105 wrote

Sure they can. South Africa wasn’t allowed to compete for years.

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joebro2022 t1_j5vrcmj wrote

South Africa's White Minority had voting power unlike Russian Citizens.

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poutinegalvaude t1_j5whlqn wrote

They also had all the power unlike the majority of South Africa’s population

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TheImperios t1_j5xgkuu wrote

The point here is that white South Africans had more agency over their government's actions than Russians.

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poutinegalvaude t1_j5xnb23 wrote

Why would white South Africans want to upset the system that gave them so much money and power?

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TheImperios t1_j5xw4ec wrote

The idea I think is exactly that. That while white South Africans could just vote the apartheid government out if they wanted, Russians cannot and their only option is armed insurgency (which is near-impossible while the regime is strong), meaning they are less to blame.

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poutinegalvaude t1_j5xym3e wrote

I don't think they could have just voted them out, either. In 1946 it was a response to the foundation of the ANC but by 1948 the Herenigde Nasionale were in control and very authoritarian. White dissenters were treated very harshly, thus discouraging any future support for the dismantling of Apartheid.

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TheImperios t1_j5xyng2 wrote

Yeah, it's complicated, IIRC South Africa was effectively ruled by a secret society

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LiveOnFive t1_j5vj5kb wrote

They absolutely can. The International Biathlon Union did it immediately.

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joebro2022 t1_j5vrgt7 wrote

Doesn't make it right

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redditkindasuxballs t1_j5vxlll wrote

No the fact that their countries are causing a war of aggression against a sovereign nation, that’s what makes it right to ban the athletes from competing and bringing their country the prestige and capital that having Olympic athletes gains.

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joebro2022 t1_j5vz7dh wrote

Then a lot of other countries should be banned. As those countries are doing the same.

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PinkLegs t1_j5y9b6d wrote

What other countries?

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joebro2022 t1_j5ytx1h wrote

China, Saudi, Israel, US, France etc.

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PinkLegs t1_j5yvnxi wrote

What sovereign countries are China, Israel, US, France invading these days?

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joebro2022 t1_j5z18wg wrote

China is doing something just as bad

Israel is literally occupying Palestine which is recongnized as sovereign country by most of the World's population and countries

US is not doing anything right now but they didn't get banned when they did.

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PinkLegs t1_j5z3q37 wrote

Palestine is not sovereign, and China is just doing something??

Us is doing nothing, and you just forgot France.

So none of them is doing the same as Russia.

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joebro2022 t1_j5z87l9 wrote

Palestine is a country. Israel should be banned for killing civilans in a foreign country

China is doing genocide if you didn't know

US werent banned when they invaded Iraq so neither should Russia

France has military personnel in Various African countries meddling in their affairs.

No point arguing with someone who doesn't recongnize Palestine as a country

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hamhead t1_j5x3dvm wrote

>IOC can't just go banning athletes of countries because of the crimes their government commited. Very few countries would be left

They absolutely can, and have.

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Ferris_Wheel_Skippy t1_j5vkndz wrote

Totally agree. Either take a stand or just don't bother at all

i'd honestly have more respect for the IOC if they just let the Russians and Belarussians compete under their flags, than this clown bullshit

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