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Obi-Wan-Oblivious t1_j4or04q wrote
Good stat…
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AllTex45 t1_j4otnx0 wrote
If you removed the 7th seed the Playoff picture would be the exact same as it is right now.
the_than_then_guy t1_j4otpl2 wrote
True, but in this case, the seventh seed isn't one of the teams so it works out the same.
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For the seven seed to matter in this equation they need to beat the two seed on wildcard weekend which is technically possible but would still be rare. I think we will see it like once every five years to a decade. I know any giving Sunday but there’s such a gap between a top four team in the league and a roughly league average team. Then they also need to be in the same division as two other teams that all made it to the next round.
Even with expanded playoffs I think this will continue to be incredibly rare.
Magnatz t1_j4oyl2c wrote
49ers-Rams literally last year as well.
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- 7 team playoff
RollingMoss1 OP t1_j4p1dpn wrote
The Seahawks were the 7th seed so the expanded playoffs have no bearing on the stat.
[deleted] t1_j4p1k87 wrote
It completely changed the seeding.
There were no byes before this.
[deleted] t1_j4p1suu wrote
Unless I'm remembering incorrectly. Did it used to be 1 seed and 2 seed get byes? For some reason I thought 1 played 6.
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MuchoGrandeRandy t1_j4p397a wrote
Considering where the NFC East was a couple of years ago, this is truly remarkable.
RollingMoss1 OP t1_j4p3aax wrote
You're right that back when it was six teams the #1 and #2 seeds got byes. Now only the #1 seed gets the bye. So this year's seeding would have worked out as Eagles at #1 get a bye. Then SF (#2) plays Seattle (#7). #3 Vikings play #6 Giants, #4 TB get #5 Cowboys. This got the three NFC east teams into the Divisional. I think the same games #3 through #6 would have been played with the old format.
El_mochilero t1_j4pbd8c wrote
We almost saw all four teams in the NFC East make the playoffs this year, too.
BigTomBombadil t1_j4pdggz wrote
Rams also won the Super Bowl, so the trend continues.
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davekva t1_j4ppy8z wrote
So the #1 Eagles and #2 Niners would've had the bye, Seahawks don't get in. Matchups still would've been #3 Vikings hosting #6 Giants, and #4 Bucs hosting #5 Cowboys. Things would've been EXACTLY the same going into the divisional round in the old format.
stay-at-homie t1_j4pqj2v wrote
Packers-bears 2010 - I’ll never forget. Cutler sat out and the bears lost.
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elpajaroquemamais t1_j4pufbn wrote
Worth noting that it never happened after realignment in 2002 with a 12 team playoff format. Only happened because they added another team to each conference’s playoffs.
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nygiantsfan1578 t1_j4pvdbu wrote
If it was still a 12 team playoff it would have been the same result though. Matchups would have been the same
elpajaroquemamais t1_j4pw9j7 wrote
Maybe. The motivations would have been different and there would have been one less game. Some teams would have not played their starters because the first two teams used to get a bye. We can’t know one way or the other. But again, still worth noting that it never happened with 16 games and a 12 team playoff.
Calmandpeace t1_j4pwkgj wrote
They all have what it takes to be blown out by San Francisco
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Dar4125 t1_j4px0z2 wrote
Who could forget the NFC Least
bigga165 t1_j4pz4dq wrote
They’ve renamed it to the NFC Beast
Dar4125 t1_j4pz92t wrote
The NFC Beast….and Washington
bigga165 t1_j4pzf1s wrote
Oh yeah … them
Wire_Bender t1_j4q1t1r wrote
The article I was referencing was about that game. I should have realized that.
Pikesmakker t1_j4q2ir0 wrote
sigh
NoobOnTheRun t1_j4q37jv wrote
Commies had a better win percentage than the entire NFC South
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elpajaroquemamais t1_j4qc5ol wrote
Nah. There’s a real chance that two byes and six slots would have changed how things turned out.
_Monosyllabic_ t1_j4qcak9 wrote
When I think of the eastern US the first state to come to mind is Texas.
CantFindMyWallet t1_j4qcu2b wrote
I love how "it only happened because of the extra wildcard spot" has morphed into "technically we can't be sure that the extra wildcard spot wasn't a factor." Shut up.
conker1264 t1_j4qcvwd wrote
I’m sure cowboys will lose next game as tradition
jarpio t1_j4qdjsy wrote
I’d take the eagles -10.5 over San Francisco tbh. They’re a buzzsaw team.
BxgBlxck t1_j4qdkzi wrote
That’s a pretty big turnaround seeing as most people considered the NFC South to be the worst division in football like a season or two ago. Not too shabby
elpajaroquemamais t1_j4qe16v wrote
You can’t discount it. You simply can’t. Especially since it literally never happened before.
Savage0145 t1_j4qe9m6 wrote
Swap the cowboys and panthers and things make more sense. Cowboys in nfc south and panthers in nfc east.
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CantFindMyWallet t1_j4qfmx7 wrote
Watch me. I'm discounting it right now.
TheRealGunn t1_j4qhb9g wrote
Curious where Washington fans stand on Ron Rivera after putting Wentz in week 17 and not realizing they could be eliminated that week?
Surely you're all calling for his head right?
Pikesmakker t1_j4qix0p wrote
Yeah not happy. The ownership change coming makes things a little screwy. If Snyder was staying Ron would probably be gone.
rjnd2828 t1_j4qjkbx wrote
No teams with a winning record in 2020.
crankfurry t1_j4qjr20 wrote
Return of the NFC BEAST!
elpajaroquemamais t1_j4qkztg wrote
I can see that. Doesn’t change the fact that adding an extra game with an opponent you wouldn’t have otherwise played could have ended differently especially when the lions had the tiebreaker. Plus giving one bye instead of two means more teams are playing up until the end of the season. It absolutely has a much higher chance of happening with 7 per side.
dsphilly t1_j4qmjib wrote
Something something it’s about the TV markets
Klendy t1_j4qo10m wrote
one win away from sweeping the playoffs with all four teams
welltherewasthisbear t1_j4qo9kh wrote
You underestimate the power of the Cowboys to make idiotic decisions.
nocoolN4M3sleft t1_j4qojlr wrote
Okay. But that has 0 impact on what happened this year. The Giants were the 6 seed and would have clinched even without game 17. The Cowboys clinched the 5 seed, and would have regardless of the extra game. The Eagles had the 1 seed, and would have regardless of the extra week, they could only lose it because of the extra week actually.
This is what would have happened in a “normal” season with 6 spots for each conference. It still would have been Giants/Vikings and Cowboys/Bucs. Since the Eagles and 49ers would have had the bye.
elpajaroquemamais t1_j4qrt97 wrote
Nope. The added 17th game wasn’t the week 18 game. An extra game and an extra slot absolutely changes the dynamic. More teams are playing harder right up until the end.
IThe-HecklerI t1_j4qs31e wrote
When realignment was on the table, the giants, eagles and redskins all threatened to tank it if Dallas was moved out of the NFC east. All three claim them as their arch rival.
nocoolN4M3sleft t1_j4qsbbb wrote
The extra game was very much the Week 18 game. Considering the fact that Week 18 has never existed up until now.
The hell are you even arguing. Teams in contention for certain spots always play hard up until the end. The ones that have nothing to play for don’t, like the Giants in Week 18.
AdvancedGentleman t1_j4qsl5n wrote
I bet at least one of those teams doesn’t make it out of the divisional round.
TheDarkRider t1_j4qu6ul wrote
Ya but they have Dan Snyder so it kind of wash
elpajaroquemamais t1_j4quc9s wrote
The extra game they had that they wouldn’t have had in the 16 game format was not the opponent they played in week 18. More teams in contention and fewer byes make more teams play up until the end.
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Mav0889 t1_j4r3zpm wrote
NFL would never do that due to the historic rivalries. I’d be mad if that were to ever happen.
Savage0145 t1_j4r99fn wrote
Of course it will never happen. Just saying geographically it makes more sense since.
Doggleganger t1_j4rat0g wrote
Just rename it to NFC East-ish.
DysfaKingeye t1_j4rb0cj wrote
First priority, ownership. Second priority, Head Coach. Third priority, Offensive Coordinator.
Our third priority has come to pass.
Fred011235 t1_j4rb153 wrote
didnt the redskins have a better record than tampa?
jcrewjr t1_j4rbjge wrote
The three team advancing thing is interesting, but requires precise seeding distribution. The only teams to beat NFCW teams in last years playoffs were other NFCW teams, but seeding kept the Cardinals from making it to round 2.
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zlaw32 t1_j4rfl4k wrote
Is it that remarkable? It’s one of the best divisions in football. The only division where every team has a Lombardi trophy. I think that NFC Least year was more the outlier
zlaw32 t1_j4rg5gb wrote
Just like Indianapolis is the furthest city south in the US
Lonely-Candle-5552 t1_j4rg6bt wrote
Lmao safe bet
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FranklynTheTanklyn t1_j4rl6kx wrote
Games with Dallas guarantees prime time games(even if your team stinks)
snoopingforpooping t1_j4rlm21 wrote
Divisions are idiotic.
360walkaway t1_j4rn0ap wrote
Pretty low bar
JRockBC19 t1_j4rqyr3 wrote
It just requires one team be the 1 seed, the rest can't play each other as they have to be wildcards. Still crazy rare to see, but from a seeding standpoint it's kinda reasonable
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__RocketMan__ t1_j4rs88y wrote
As a 49ers fan, I don't disagree too much on your assessment. The only thing is, Eagles will be sunk if something happens with Hurts.
lemonpepperlarry t1_j4rt7f6 wrote
This was perhaps the worst division in history barely over a year ago. The nfl is wild man.
midnightdiabetic t1_j4ru2l5 wrote
Beast? I thought you said weast
im_absouletly_wrong t1_j4rzunv wrote
They should’ve called their bluff
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mydrunkuncle t1_j4s5nyj wrote
Cowboys are going to spank them
FStubbs t1_j4s5sdh wrote
I thought it was the other way around, Jerry Jones didn't want to lose NY, Philly, and DC media markets.
corn_sugar_isotope t1_j4s9n9h wrote
Yonder there NFC
dolladollaclinton t1_j4sdn2h wrote
Would have happened this year if the Commanders made the playoffs and beat the 49ers. Not very likely they would have beat the 9ers, but they were close to the 7 seed and Eagles had the 1 seed so it was possible.
Cant_Spell_Shit t1_j4sdp84 wrote
Technically you could have an entire division in the divisional round and then people would be like "duh, that's why it's called the divisional round"
dolladollaclinton t1_j4sdwp0 wrote
Would have been hilarious if they all tanked, got some great draft picks out of it and racked up Super Bowls because of it.
Cant_Spell_Shit t1_j4se3dz wrote
Rodgers played terrible... We had the better team. We should have won.
gatsby712 t1_j4sfb88 wrote
Wouldn’t that give the NFL more games with at least one large market team playing? I guess it may be more advantageous for them to have prime time games with two large markets, rather than a game with a large and small market. But then you have more games with two small market teams playing each other and shifted into a regional game on cbs/fox during the afternoon.
gatsby712 t1_j4sfira wrote
I can’t wait until the Cowboys get eliminated due to a missed extra point or FG, or bad time management from the coach.
NPExplorer t1_j4shii7 wrote
Yea to me the more surprising thing is how bad they all were 2-3 years ago, not how good they are now. Definitely a quick change but NFC East is usually a force
eggraid101 t1_j4shpxd wrote
They almost made the playoffs as well.
eggraid101 t1_j4sig2d wrote
Probably more about rivalries. Washington-Dallas is one of the top 2-3 rivalries in the NFL, along with Bears-Packers and…I think those are the top 2, actually, even if da Bears haven’t had much of a showing recently against Green Bay.
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dsphilly t1_j4skiuo wrote
With all due respect. The Cowboys Redskins is nowhere near as heated as the Dallas Philly rivalry .
I believe the point was that the NFC East contains 4 of the top 10 television markets in the country. The amount of prime time games that go to the NFC East leans towards this as well
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xsvspd81 t1_j4sntfy wrote
This is my thought, too. But, I also believe (based on nothing) that Jerry Jones sold his soul to the Devil for the Cowboys' championships in the nineties, and he will not live to see them win another one.
Drewicho t1_j4srv72 wrote
Makes sense why there are so many Cowboys around New York.
Setthescene t1_j4ssyjk wrote
We now have 7 teams instead of 6 in the playoffs.
wizkid78 t1_j4stbjs wrote
Only for another month or so
Guygenius138 t1_j4svq4k wrote
NFL is better when the NFC East is strong.
crankfurry t1_j4sxet9 wrote
Woah that’s a risky bet /s
kawhi_2020 t1_j4t2td5 wrote
A little wild that reddit hasn't updated the Washington commanders flair.
elsuakned t1_j4t5vpq wrote
History doesn't mean much. Giants had 6 losing seasons out of the seven years before 2020, Commanders five of the last seven. Before this weekend the cowboys had won two playoff games in the past decade. They have not been one of the best divisions in football for quite awhile now, and all four figuring out their issues and putting together decent seasons, with two playoff wins and a bye, is not some expectation.
Number224 t1_j4tber2 wrote
Which couldn’t be said 2 years ago when they had home advantage against
ShadyPandah t1_j4tcy19 wrote
None of them are the 7th seed
TheMooseIsBlue t1_j4tdi8v wrote
Based on what win over a good team this season are you confident in the Eagles?
TheMooseIsBlue t1_j4tdsb1 wrote
But the playoff format changed 2 years ago, so giving a stat based on how it had changed 20 years ago seems kinda random. It a new format, the stats kinda reset.
ruccimon t1_j4tfgfe wrote
??? Nobody gives a shit about Washington bro. NYG vs Cowboys and Eagles vs Cowboys are both more important rivalries.
harafolofoer t1_j4thz92 wrote
I found this helpful. Good luck in your future
harafolofoer t1_j4tik94 wrote
As an eagles fan I hate to agree
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jarpio t1_j4tp097 wrote
Mostly based on the roster, their quarterback who doesn’t turn the ball over, their defense that forces the other team to turn the ball over. Their two thousand yard receivers. Their thousand yard RB. Their league leading pass rush, their secondary, their o line. They have no holes anywhere.
TheMooseIsBlue t1_j4tpasv wrote
Im not saying they’re bad, I’m saying they played a ridiculously easy schedule, so all those impressive accolades you just gave could certainly be a result of them being awesome, but they could certainly be a result of them playing no one.
We’ll likely find out next week when they finally play a varsity team against the 49ers.
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TheFrontGuy t1_j4tqppd wrote
It used to be worse, the Arizona Cardinals used to be the NFC East when there where only 3 division.
NickSwardsonIsFat t1_j4tzyrm wrote
Does QB sneaking 3x into the end zone count as something happening with him?
mydrunkuncle t1_j4u52j8 wrote
As a cowboys fan I think it’ll be bengals eagles in the bowl knock on wood
jarpio t1_j4uvql9 wrote
You can make the schedule argument for every team. If we’re being honest there are only about 5 or 6 legitimately good NFL teams this year. That’s a weak argument.
Cincy dallas KC SF Philly and Buffalo. That’s it, those are all the good teams in the league. You can make fun of the schedule for all of those teams if you want. The eagles won their division, which this year was the best division in the NFL, by 2 games.
I do know the 49ers got their doors blown off by KC, the only legitimately good team on their schedule so…make of that what you will.
Not_n_A-Hole_usually t1_j4vw1td wrote
Just sent that link to my gf, the Washington fan.
Guess who may be sleeping on the couch tonight? 😂
tynorex t1_j4wwdtm wrote
They have Mike McCarthy though, so they will probably lose in the NFC championship game, per tradition.
Jmontavs t1_j4wzlpu wrote
Why would this comment get downvoted it’s literally facts
vangc4 t1_j4xnyrc wrote
The fact that nfc east sucked for so many years.. mind as well toss them a bone or two or three..
eggraid101 t1_j4xo42o wrote
Recently Washington hasn’t been as competitive, but historically, Washington Dallas is a bigger rivalry. From Wikipedia:
The rivalry between the Dallas Cowboys and Washington Commanders, formerly known as the Redskins, is called one of the top NFL rivalries of all time and "one of the greatest in sports" by Sports Illustrated.[54]
LolitsPing t1_j4xr3sq wrote
The guy you're replying to is probably very young and is clouded by recency bias.
Washington has one of the largest fanbases historically. If you ask a lot of fans in their 40s and 50s, there's a very good chance that they're a Commie fan because of the Hogs and the Scabs in the 80s and 90s.
Until Baltimore got a team again, the now-Commies had a huge foothold in the DMV area.
__RocketMan__ t1_j5lduga wrote
Hahaha, I meant injury moreso.
Wire_Bender t1_j4op0oi wrote
And since then, only Three times have division teams faced each other in the conference finals. Steelers-Ravens in the 2008 playoffs, Packers-Bears in 2010, and 49ers-Seahawks in 2013. In each of these, the winner won the superbowl.
Edit - 4 times - Last years 49ers/Rams game. And Rams won the superbowl too