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MuchoGrandeRandy t1_j4p397a wrote

Considering where the NFC East was a couple of years ago, this is truly remarkable.

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Dar4125 t1_j4px0z2 wrote

Who could forget the NFC Least

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bigga165 t1_j4pz4dq wrote

They’ve renamed it to the NFC Beast

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Dar4125 t1_j4pz92t wrote

The NFC Beast….and Washington

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NoobOnTheRun t1_j4q37jv wrote

Commies had a better win percentage than the entire NFC South

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Klendy t1_j4qo10m wrote

one win away from sweeping the playoffs with all four teams

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Fred011235 t1_j4rb153 wrote

didnt the redskins have a better record than tampa?

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Number224 t1_j4tber2 wrote

Which couldn’t be said 2 years ago when they had home advantage against

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zlaw32 t1_j4rfl4k wrote

Is it that remarkable? It’s one of the best divisions in football. The only division where every team has a Lombardi trophy. I think that NFC Least year was more the outlier

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NPExplorer t1_j4shii7 wrote

Yea to me the more surprising thing is how bad they all were 2-3 years ago, not how good they are now. Definitely a quick change but NFC East is usually a force

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elsuakned t1_j4t5vpq wrote

History doesn't mean much. Giants had 6 losing seasons out of the seven years before 2020, Commanders five of the last seven. Before this weekend the cowboys had won two playoff games in the past decade. They have not been one of the best divisions in football for quite awhile now, and all four figuring out their issues and putting together decent seasons, with two playoff wins and a bye, is not some expectation.

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Jmontavs t1_j4wzlpu wrote

Why would this comment get downvoted it’s literally facts

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rjnd2828 t1_j4qjkbx wrote

No teams with a winning record in 2020.

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Pikesmakker t1_j4q2ir0 wrote

sigh

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TheRealGunn t1_j4qhb9g wrote

Curious where Washington fans stand on Ron Rivera after putting Wentz in week 17 and not realizing they could be eliminated that week?

Surely you're all calling for his head right?

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Pikesmakker t1_j4qix0p wrote

Yeah not happy. The ownership change coming makes things a little screwy. If Snyder was staying Ron would probably be gone.

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DysfaKingeye t1_j4rb0cj wrote

First priority, ownership. Second priority, Head Coach. Third priority, Offensive Coordinator.

Our third priority has come to pass.

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kawhi_2020 t1_j4t2td5 wrote

A little wild that reddit hasn't updated the Washington commanders flair.

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El_mochilero t1_j4pbd8c wrote

We almost saw all four teams in the NFC East make the playoffs this year, too.

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jcrewjr t1_j4rbjge wrote

The three team advancing thing is interesting, but requires precise seeding distribution. The only teams to beat NFCW teams in last years playoffs were other NFCW teams, but seeding kept the Cardinals from making it to round 2.

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JRockBC19 t1_j4rqyr3 wrote

It just requires one team be the 1 seed, the rest can't play each other as they have to be wildcards. Still crazy rare to see, but from a seeding standpoint it's kinda reasonable

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dolladollaclinton t1_j4sdn2h wrote

Would have happened this year if the Commanders made the playoffs and beat the 49ers. Not very likely they would have beat the 9ers, but they were close to the 7 seed and Eagles had the 1 seed so it was possible.

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_Monosyllabic_ t1_j4qcak9 wrote

When I think of the eastern US the first state to come to mind is Texas.

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IThe-HecklerI t1_j4qs31e wrote

When realignment was on the table, the giants, eagles and redskins all threatened to tank it if Dallas was moved out of the NFC east. All three claim them as their arch rival.

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FStubbs t1_j4s5sdh wrote

I thought it was the other way around, Jerry Jones didn't want to lose NY, Philly, and DC media markets.

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xsvspd81 t1_j4sntfy wrote

This is my thought, too. But, I also believe (based on nothing) that Jerry Jones sold his soul to the Devil for the Cowboys' championships in the nineties, and he will not live to see them win another one.

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Drewicho t1_j4srv72 wrote

Makes sense why there are so many Cowboys around New York.

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im_absouletly_wrong t1_j4rzunv wrote

They should’ve called their bluff

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dolladollaclinton t1_j4sdwp0 wrote

Would have been hilarious if they all tanked, got some great draft picks out of it and racked up Super Bowls because of it.

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Savage0145 t1_j4qe9m6 wrote

Swap the cowboys and panthers and things make more sense. Cowboys in nfc south and panthers in nfc east.

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Mav0889 t1_j4r3zpm wrote

NFL would never do that due to the historic rivalries. I’d be mad if that were to ever happen.

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Savage0145 t1_j4r99fn wrote

Of course it will never happen. Just saying geographically it makes more sense since.

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gatsby712 t1_j4sfb88 wrote

Wouldn’t that give the NFL more games with at least one large market team playing? I guess it may be more advantageous for them to have prime time games with two large markets, rather than a game with a large and small market. But then you have more games with two small market teams playing each other and shifted into a regional game on cbs/fox during the afternoon.

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dsphilly t1_j4qmjib wrote

Something something it’s about the TV markets

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eggraid101 t1_j4sig2d wrote

Probably more about rivalries. Washington-Dallas is one of the top 2-3 rivalries in the NFL, along with Bears-Packers and…I think those are the top 2, actually, even if da Bears haven’t had much of a showing recently against Green Bay.

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dsphilly t1_j4skiuo wrote

With all due respect. The Cowboys Redskins is nowhere near as heated as the Dallas Philly rivalry .
I believe the point was that the NFC East contains 4 of the top 10 television markets in the country. The amount of prime time games that go to the NFC East leans towards this as well

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ruccimon t1_j4tfgfe wrote

??? Nobody gives a shit about Washington bro. NYG vs Cowboys and Eagles vs Cowboys are both more important rivalries.

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eggraid101 t1_j4xo42o wrote

Recently Washington hasn’t been as competitive, but historically, Washington Dallas is a bigger rivalry. From Wikipedia:

The rivalry between the Dallas Cowboys and Washington Commanders, formerly known as the Redskins, is called one of the top NFL rivalries of all time and "one of the greatest in sports" by Sports Illustrated.[54]

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LolitsPing t1_j4xr3sq wrote

The guy you're replying to is probably very young and is clouded by recency bias.

Washington has one of the largest fanbases historically. If you ask a lot of fans in their 40s and 50s, there's a very good chance that they're a Commie fan because of the Hogs and the Scabs in the 80s and 90s.

Until Baltimore got a team again, the now-Commies had a huge foothold in the DMV area.

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TheFrontGuy t1_j4tqppd wrote

It used to be worse, the Arizona Cardinals used to be the NFC East when there where only 3 division.

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Wire_Bender t1_j4op0oi wrote

And since then, only Three times have division teams faced each other in the conference finals. Steelers-Ravens in the 2008 playoffs, Packers-Bears in 2010, and 49ers-Seahawks in 2013. In each of these, the winner won the superbowl.

Edit - 4 times - Last years 49ers/Rams game. And Rams won the superbowl too

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Magnatz t1_j4oyl2c wrote

49ers-Rams literally last year as well.

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Wire_Bender t1_j4q1t1r wrote

The article I was referencing was about that game. I should have realized that.

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Calmandpeace t1_j4pwkgj wrote

They all have what it takes to be blown out by San Francisco

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jarpio t1_j4qdjsy wrote

I’d take the eagles -10.5 over San Francisco tbh. They’re a buzzsaw team.

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__RocketMan__ t1_j4rs88y wrote

As a 49ers fan, I don't disagree too much on your assessment. The only thing is, Eagles will be sunk if something happens with Hurts.

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TheMooseIsBlue t1_j4tdi8v wrote

Based on what win over a good team this season are you confident in the Eagles?

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jarpio t1_j4tp097 wrote

Mostly based on the roster, their quarterback who doesn’t turn the ball over, their defense that forces the other team to turn the ball over. Their two thousand yard receivers. Their thousand yard RB. Their league leading pass rush, their secondary, their o line. They have no holes anywhere.

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TheMooseIsBlue t1_j4tpasv wrote

Im not saying they’re bad, I’m saying they played a ridiculously easy schedule, so all those impressive accolades you just gave could certainly be a result of them being awesome, but they could certainly be a result of them playing no one.

We’ll likely find out next week when they finally play a varsity team against the 49ers.

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jarpio t1_j4uvql9 wrote

You can make the schedule argument for every team. If we’re being honest there are only about 5 or 6 legitimately good NFL teams this year. That’s a weak argument.

Cincy dallas KC SF Philly and Buffalo. That’s it, those are all the good teams in the league. You can make fun of the schedule for all of those teams if you want. The eagles won their division, which this year was the best division in the NFL, by 2 games.

I do know the 49ers got their doors blown off by KC, the only legitimately good team on their schedule so…make of that what you will.

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crankfurry t1_j4qjr20 wrote

Return of the NFC BEAST!

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conker1264 t1_j4qcvwd wrote

I’m sure cowboys will lose next game as tradition

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welltherewasthisbear t1_j4qo9kh wrote

You underestimate the power of the Cowboys to make idiotic decisions.

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gatsby712 t1_j4sfira wrote

I can’t wait until the Cowboys get eliminated due to a missed extra point or FG, or bad time management from the coach.

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tynorex t1_j4wwdtm wrote

They have Mike McCarthy though, so they will probably lose in the NFC championship game, per tradition.

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lemonpepperlarry t1_j4rt7f6 wrote

This was perhaps the worst division in history barely over a year ago. The nfl is wild man.

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Cant_Spell_Shit t1_j4sdp84 wrote

Technically you could have an entire division in the divisional round and then people would be like "duh, that's why it's called the divisional round"

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Setthescene t1_j4ssyjk wrote

We now have 7 teams instead of 6 in the playoffs.

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ShadyPandah t1_j4tcy19 wrote

None of them are the 7th seed

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TheMooseIsBlue t1_j4tdsb1 wrote

But the playoff format changed 2 years ago, so giving a stat based on how it had changed 20 years ago seems kinda random. It a new format, the stats kinda reset.

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[deleted] t1_j4osfs6 wrote

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the_than_then_guy t1_j4otpl2 wrote

True, but in this case, the seventh seed isn't one of the teams so it works out the same.

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[deleted] t1_j4oy8oi wrote

For the seven seed to matter in this equation they need to beat the two seed on wildcard weekend which is technically possible but would still be rare. I think we will see it like once every five years to a decade. I know any giving Sunday but there’s such a gap between a top four team in the league and a roughly league average team. Then they also need to be in the same division as two other teams that all made it to the next round.

Even with expanded playoffs I think this will continue to be incredibly rare.

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AllTex45 t1_j4otnx0 wrote

If you removed the 7th seed the Playoff picture would be the exact same as it is right now.

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BxgBlxck t1_j4qdkzi wrote

That’s a pretty big turnaround seeing as most people considered the NFC South to be the worst division in football like a season or two ago. Not too shabby

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Not_n_A-Hole_usually t1_j4vw1td wrote

Just sent that link to my gf, the Washington fan.

Guess who may be sleeping on the couch tonight? 😂

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vangc4 t1_j4xnyrc wrote

The fact that nfc east sucked for so many years.. mind as well toss them a bone or two or three..

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Guygenius138 t1_j4svq4k wrote

NFL is better when the NFC East is strong.

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[deleted] t1_j4p0npo wrote

  • 7 team playoff
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RollingMoss1 OP t1_j4p1dpn wrote

The Seahawks were the 7th seed so the expanded playoffs have no bearing on the stat.

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[deleted] t1_j4p1k87 wrote

It completely changed the seeding.

There were no byes before this.

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[deleted] t1_j4p1suu wrote

Unless I'm remembering incorrectly. Did it used to be 1 seed and 2 seed get byes? For some reason I thought 1 played 6.

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RollingMoss1 OP t1_j4p3aax wrote

You're right that back when it was six teams the #1 and #2 seeds got byes. Now only the #1 seed gets the bye. So this year's seeding would have worked out as Eagles at #1 get a bye. Then SF (#2) plays Seattle (#7). #3 Vikings play #6 Giants, #4 TB get #5 Cowboys. This got the three NFC east teams into the Divisional. I think the same games #3 through #6 would have been played with the old format.

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davekva t1_j4ppy8z wrote

So the #1 Eagles and #2 Niners would've had the bye, Seahawks don't get in. Matchups still would've been #3 Vikings hosting #6 Giants, and #4 Bucs hosting #5 Cowboys. Things would've been EXACTLY the same going into the divisional round in the old format.

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elpajaroquemamais t1_j4pufbn wrote

Worth noting that it never happened after realignment in 2002 with a 12 team playoff format. Only happened because they added another team to each conference’s playoffs.

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nygiantsfan1578 t1_j4pvdbu wrote

If it was still a 12 team playoff it would have been the same result though. Matchups would have been the same

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elpajaroquemamais t1_j4pw9j7 wrote

Maybe. The motivations would have been different and there would have been one less game. Some teams would have not played their starters because the first two teams used to get a bye. We can’t know one way or the other. But again, still worth noting that it never happened with 16 games and a 12 team playoff.

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CantFindMyWallet t1_j4q548v wrote

bozo shit

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elpajaroquemamais t1_j4qc5ol wrote

Nah. There’s a real chance that two byes and six slots would have changed how things turned out.

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CantFindMyWallet t1_j4qcu2b wrote

I love how "it only happened because of the extra wildcard spot" has morphed into "technically we can't be sure that the extra wildcard spot wasn't a factor." Shut up.

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elpajaroquemamais t1_j4qe16v wrote

You can’t discount it. You simply can’t. Especially since it literally never happened before.

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CantFindMyWallet t1_j4qfmx7 wrote

Watch me. I'm discounting it right now.

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elpajaroquemamais t1_j4qkztg wrote

I can see that. Doesn’t change the fact that adding an extra game with an opponent you wouldn’t have otherwise played could have ended differently especially when the lions had the tiebreaker. Plus giving one bye instead of two means more teams are playing up until the end of the season. It absolutely has a much higher chance of happening with 7 per side.

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nocoolN4M3sleft t1_j4qojlr wrote

Okay. But that has 0 impact on what happened this year. The Giants were the 6 seed and would have clinched even without game 17. The Cowboys clinched the 5 seed, and would have regardless of the extra game. The Eagles had the 1 seed, and would have regardless of the extra week, they could only lose it because of the extra week actually.

This is what would have happened in a “normal” season with 6 spots for each conference. It still would have been Giants/Vikings and Cowboys/Bucs. Since the Eagles and 49ers would have had the bye.

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elpajaroquemamais t1_j4qrt97 wrote

Nope. The added 17th game wasn’t the week 18 game. An extra game and an extra slot absolutely changes the dynamic. More teams are playing harder right up until the end.

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nocoolN4M3sleft t1_j4qsbbb wrote

The extra game was very much the Week 18 game. Considering the fact that Week 18 has never existed up until now.

The hell are you even arguing. Teams in contention for certain spots always play hard up until the end. The ones that have nothing to play for don’t, like the Giants in Week 18.

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elpajaroquemamais t1_j4quc9s wrote

The extra game they had that they wouldn’t have had in the 16 game format was not the opponent they played in week 18. More teams in contention and fewer byes make more teams play up until the end.

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