cityterrace t1_j3rl3fv wrote
Reply to comment by paulfromatlanta in Bulldogs barrel their way to 2nd straight CFP title, set record for points scored in title game by EatSleepJeep
If Ohio States kicker makes the FG Georgia isn’t even in this game.
Georgia won and is the champion. But best is still in question.
tourniquetman34 t1_j3rrzjz wrote
The problem with “shoulda coulda woulda” statements is that you’re presenting a scenario that differs from reality.
cityterrace t1_j3subdv wrote
My point is that either it's a meaningless statement because there's no "question" in any year who's the "best" team as it's whoever wins the national championship.
Or you give it any meaning by evaluating the quality of wins, especially in pressure situations. Not just the last game. And Georgia nearly lost the semis, if not, for a missed FG.
Compare for instance, the 2019 LSU championship team. They never trailed ANY GAME with less than 5 min left. In fact, they might not have trailed in the 2H of any game, but I'm not sure.
They destroyed Oklahoma in the semis and Clemson in the National Championship.
Seahawk715 t1_j3rlu50 wrote
What? They won the title game 65-7 😂
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cityterrace t1_j3rn12i wrote
They beat an overachieving team who had a horrible game while they had a great game. They were the best team yesterday without a doubt.
There’s doubt whether they were the best team last Saturday or Ohio State was.
lite723 t1_j3rvh7r wrote
I don’t understand your logic, OSU only made the playoffs because another team lost their conference championship the week they weren’t playing because of their earlier loss to Michigan. There is no doubt which team was the best this year.
cityterrace t1_j3sg1dx wrote
I’m only responding to OP saying they were clearly the “best”.
That’s either a meaningless statement because the winner every year can be the “clearly the best” since they won. Yeah they’re the best. But if they won by 1 point after trailing by 20+ points in the 4q and assisted by a huge choke job they’d be the best too.
Or he’s saying the big margin of victory yesterday meant they “clearly the best” compared with other champions who won by a slimmer margin. Which ignores how they almost lost last Saturday.
Crime_Dawg t1_j3ryeuz wrote
Or Michigan who has beaten OSU two straight years....
Seahawk715 t1_j3s6d2e wrote
And curbstomped them on the road six weeks ago.
cityterrace t1_j3wxrtx wrote
None of Ohio State’s past losses mattered on NYE. If they won then beat TCU they’d be champs.
CGFROSTY t1_j3rri4q wrote
UGA’s kicker missed a FG earlier too? They’re part of the game.
cityterrace t1_j3suoqn wrote
I'm not saying UGA is undeserving. They won fair and square.
I just don't know what "no question they're the best" means. If it just means they won the CFP National Championship game, then it doesn't matter whether they won by 1 or 100 points.
Or, if it does have meaning, then you evaluate how convincingly they won their games. And they didn't win the semi-finals that convincingly.
koala70 t1_j3ryhk3 wrote
But it’s still an argument that OSU was close to Georgia as the best team in the country. Especially if Marvin Harrison Jr. didn’t get knocked out of the game. We’re just saying that Georgia and OSU are close, not that Georgia didn’t deserve to win just because OSU missed the kick.
mavajo t1_j3sgnde wrote
Ohio State at their best can compete with UGA. But that's the difference between UGA and Ohio State. UGA was consistent and showed up enough every week to win. Ohio State wasn't. That's why Ohio State lost to UGA, and that's why UGA is the National Champion and the definitive and unequivocal best team in the country.
koala70 t1_j3shi71 wrote
That is a fair point, Ohio State is scarily inconsistent most years. Being a fan is usually stressful haha we fuckin lost to va tech the year we won the title ffs
pargofan t1_j3t01zp wrote
No, the only difference was that Noah Ruggles missed a 50 yard FG at the end. That's all. They didn't lose because Georgia "showed up ... every week." That didn't matter for last Saturday's game.
CFP playoff history is filled with teams that lost, and even lost big, and eventually recovered to win the CFP.
Ruthrfurd-the-stoned t1_j3weuts wrote
If they beat Michigan they would’ve played TCU on NYE so it kinda does
mavajo t1_j3sggek wrote
UGA beat everyone they played, including Ohio State. How is the best still in question? Lmao.
cityterrace t1_j3stb6j wrote
Then it's a meaningless statement to say there's "no doubt who's the best team." Even if Georgia lost 2 games by 20 points, all that matters is that they won the last game.
Every year, there's never any doubt who's the best team. It doesn't matter if you win by 1 or 100 points. Whoever wins the CFP National Championship is the "best" team. No doubt.
Ruthrfurd-the-stoned t1_j3weoxv wrote
It was like a 50 yarder though that’s not a kick you get surprised about missing
cityterrace t1_j3wxbdp wrote
He just made the 48 yarder 2 minutes ago pretty comfortably. Even your QB said he didn’t know how Georgia won. It wasn’t a sure thing but he’s an all American kicker who only missed 4 FGs all season.
Again, see the rest of my posts elsewhere. UGA won and is a deserving champion. But it’s not as if they demolished everyone on the path to the championship like other teams in past years did. Like LSU in 19 or Alabama in 20
Ruthrfurd-the-stoned t1_j3wxl71 wrote
Steton’s comments were regarding the game as a whole and the comeback that lead up to OSU needing that kick. He’s a great kicker and he did nail that 48 but like that is impressive and he’s not guaranteed to do it every time just like 15 years ago a 50 yarder would be considered insane
cityterrace t1_j3wy6sz wrote
No. It’s not like he missed a chip shot from 30 yards. But I’ll bet if you look at ESPN’s live odds Georgia’s probability of winning was under 50% just before the kick.
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