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ArtistWhoStarves t1_j3nzxb2 wrote

Reply to comment by BuckSleezy in Packers' Quay Walker ejected for shoving Lions medical staffer. by PrincessBananas85

He's not like a vontez burfict, Anthony Barr, or n. Suh type player. These are absolutely stupid moves on his part. He know it and feels terrible. Poor reactions in the situations. I'm sure he'll seek therapy and figure it out. If you saw him in the tunnel he was berating himself. He was in pain. I know that look because I've had it when I made a dumb impulsive decision. Hindsight is 20/20, he just needs to slow his mind and think before he reacts.

Edit: a Lotta people living in glass houses on here. Acting like he punched a guy. Was it stupid? Absolutely. But he didn't actually hurt anyone. He wasn't head hunting, stomping on people, or kicking anyone in the nuts. He got shoved and he pushed them. He's not mentally disciplined, and he knows it. I can def get behind a 3 game suspension, but acting like he is this cheap dirty player who is a bad person, you sound like a moron.

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Maxwell-Druthers t1_j3o3lqk wrote

He feels terrible he got ejected. This guy is a grade A piece of shit. He pushed him because the trainer had the audacity to brush past him while he was trying to tend to an injured player. This threatened his ego, he felt “disrespected” and his natural reaction was to shove him, like a child. These 280 lb man babies are the most dangerous people in society. They think they’re entitled to all the “respect” in the world and their fragile egos are shattered at any perceived slight. These are the types that will beat the shit out of people, or in worst cases kill people at any perceived act of “disrespect”. GUARANTEE this slob has a violent past. As someone else stated, this looks even worse considering what happened last week with medical personnel saving Damar Hamlin’s life. They need to release this guy YESTERDAY. That single shove revealed everything you need to know about that scumbag.

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WoobaLoobaDoobDoob t1_j3pre0b wrote

Oh I see, you’re a racist.

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Maxwell-Druthers t1_j3qsrbf wrote

Adults are speaking, quiet, you ding dong.

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WoobaLoobaDoobDoob t1_j3r6bus wrote

He pushed a man and you call him a potential murderer, one of “the most dangerous people in society”, a slob, and you “guaranteed” that he had a violent past. You don’t know him, you’re pulling shit out of your ass. The only notable people to graduate from his high school are athletes. Did it ever occur to you that maybe he grew up in a situation where football was seen as his only way to be successful? In those situations mental health and anger management aren’t exactly prioritized. He said publicly, before your comment, that the way he acted was unacceptable, but you didn’t take the 2 minutes to look that up before writing your racist-ass comment, did you?

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Maxwell-Druthers t1_j3r7voj wrote

Your boy shoves medical personnel for brushing past him on the field. He’s done it twice in a single season. Yes, he’s a POS. I don’t care if he’s black or white. Mental health and anger management aren’t prioritized in this entire country… you don’t see anyone else pushing medical staff for trying to help an injured player. And ya, I read his apology. Do you think he’s just gonna act like it didn’t happen? He’s the only player to get disqualified from a game twice in one season since 2000… and both for shoving a medical assistant. Gtfo outta here with your mindless “you’re racist” bs. I don’t care if he’s black or white. You look like a buffoon. That’s why everyone is downvoting you, ya lunkhead. Have a great day, try to be better.

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PrisonJoe2095 t1_j3o6w2a wrote

The guy looked broken up over it. No one’s perfect. He lost his cool in the moment. It wasn’t like he sexually assaulted 20ish women, beat his pregnant wife, or stomped on someone’s face with his cleats. It was a slight shove. I can forgive a guy for this.

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MLGWolf69 t1_j3o7znt wrote

The thing is that he's done this twice now. He shoved a Bill's coach earlier in the season already and got ejected for that, and today he shoves a guy who's trying to tend to an injured player. This is now no longer a one-off thing, it's a pattern

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PrisonJoe2095 t1_j3o9tfh wrote

I see your point of view. I felt that way initially. But I can give this guy another chance. I don’t need to crucify him. He might not have noticed it was a trainer.

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FirstSonOfGwyn t1_j3obqi1 wrote

unfortunate he got this far in life w/o learning how to be respectful, but I do agree with you.

This is dumbass behavior, but its not some horrific inhumane shit. Its a dude who clearly has temper/impulse control issues. and I'm sure in the middle of an NFL game the cognitive load to control that stuff will not be at its best.

Even bigger dumbass for doing it twice, but I agree with you, this isn't an impossibility to come back from.

I also appreciate seeing a pro athlete getting a second/third chance is frustrating and uncool in a lot of ways.

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MLGWolf69 t1_j3obtnp wrote

I'll see what happens with him, because I can't imagine the Packers are gonna just dump him, he is a rookie and everything. But, like Matt LaFleur said, he has to be smart going forward. But I would think it's teachable to have a player think before they go shoving people around

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Maxwell-Druthers t1_j3o7q9n wrote

He’s done it twice… and these medical personnel guys are half his size. And not in uniform. It’s not the physical slight shove that’s the big issue, it’s the psychology behind it. Who the fuck shoves a medical professional in the act of helping a fallen player? TWICE?!?

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PrisonJoe2095 t1_j3oa5b5 wrote

I agree. Complete deuce move. He’s got an issue he needs to deal with. I think people just need to put it in proportion.

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[deleted] t1_j3oucx8 wrote

No. You can see when it goes down. Totally remorseless when he does it, sees the flag go up, and then falls apart. He’s broken up he got caught. If nothing came of it he would have been bragging about it after the fact. He’s got a lot of growing up to do.

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PrisonJoe2095 t1_j3p12ii wrote

I agree he’s got growing up to do. I’m saying the Reddit Army is overacting to the seriousness of his crime. “Your boos mean nothing, I’ve seen what makes you cheer.”

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chiquis2948 t1_j3pnliv wrote

It's weird that these guys aren't held to a higher standard than someone bagging grocery in stores. If joe pushed 2 other employees, he would be fired. Or imagine if in an MMA fight. 1 fighter gets hurt, and a medical doctor comes in, and the other fighter shoves him. And then does it again! I would imagine it would be hard for him to get licensed again.

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Brandon48236 t1_j3oofbn wrote

Burfict, Barr, and Suh, as far as I can remember, kept their cheap shots to other players.

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FergaliciousDef t1_j3o56ch wrote

Dumb impulsive decisions like physically harming someone??

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ArtistWhoStarves t1_j3okw07 wrote

Dude. If you think those shoves hurt them at all, I don't know what to tell you. The worst part about it is it was a person on the medical staff just trying to help his injured player. You can't get in the way of that. Nice glass house you live in.

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Str1fer t1_j3ochay wrote

Get off your high horse. It was a push, not a punch. What he did was wrong and unsportsmanlike but nothing more. Now if he took a swing at the guy, that would be another story. Either way the guy needs to work on his mental game sooner rather than later, so it doesn't turn into something worse than a small push.

If you saw the whole video, you can clearly see in the tunnel that he regrets his actions and having a 'nice' talk with himself.

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LividLager t1_j3oe0bc wrote

The guy he pushed was trying to attend to an injured player. Fuck that dude.

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Pushmonk t1_j3oi2s8 wrote

Guess what? Pushing someone can cause injuries. Just because it didn't doesn't make it okay. He was punished and felt bad that he got punished and will lose money. He doesn't care about the fact that he pushed a medical worker tending to an injured player.

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ArtistWhoStarves t1_j3ol2da wrote

He doesn't? Did you ask him? You're building a narrative about someone you have never met.

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Pushmonk t1_j3om6rv wrote

Usually people don't push people if they immediately will feel bad about it after. Unless, of course, you are five years old. This guy is an adult. But please continue to defend his actions because he cried later.

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ArtistWhoStarves t1_j3omgmj wrote

I can't explain it any further to you. Just try to empathize and understand more instead of immediately hating and writing people off.

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Pushmonk t1_j3omzoz wrote

I find it very difficult to "empathize" with someone who pushes medical personnel for doing their job because they brushed against them.

Maybe he'll put you on his payroll for carrying all this water for him. I'm sure he's been reading all of your comments.

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Look_to_the_Stars t1_j3oxxn9 wrote

So are you.

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ArtistWhoStarves t1_j3oyi6e wrote

I'm holding certain judgement because I don't know him. All I've said is the truth. Dude has made a few mistakes. As far as I know he has been on the nationional stage for 1000s of snaps and these 2 instances do not paint a complete picture.

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omarade2 t1_j3old02 wrote

Gonna be hard for him to work on his mental game when he scored an 8 on the wonderlic. His test scores and behavior suggest he has the mental maturity of a child and to be honest, he probably shouldn’t be playing in the nfl because he’s going to hurt himself Or someone else.

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Brandon48236 t1_j3onck9 wrote

Give credit where credit is due. He scored a 9 on the wonderlic.

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B1G__Tuna t1_j3or0fz wrote

Anthony Barr? Are packers fans really still calling that Rodgers tackle dirty? The delusion with you guys is crazy.

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omarade2 t1_j3okxkm wrote

Hard to slow your mind any more when you get an 8 on the wonderlic test.

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buzzhavoc t1_j3o1kn1 wrote

Definitely an 'in the moment' reaction that was stupid, doesn't immediately make him a horrible person.

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5hootermcg t1_j3o218h wrote

Fool me once

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idroidude t1_j3o3qz3 wrote

Yep. I think the first time you can excuse it. After that, it's up to him to showed that he's working on it and can control himself.

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MasqueOfTheRedDice t1_j3o74g7 wrote

I think we need to realize that professional athletes, especially a more violent sport like football, draws people with inflated egos and toxic masculinity. Same issue with some cops; it’s a job that’s more likely to draw these types of people. I don’t even like the phrase “toxic masculinity” because I think it’s overused in lesser situations and just serves as a detractor when over-described that way, but that’s exactly what this is. It’s more common in the NFL than other sports, and it’s more common in all pro sports than in the general public. The NFL should require seminars to teams, etc. with real on field tape like this to help drive the point home. I’m sure they probably do already, but they need to do a better job, and the players have to take it seriously. It’s not just this one guy, it’s a culture issue - this guy needs to own his actions, but the system is also failing him.

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