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sumlikeitScott t1_izoq24x wrote

Great team and run they are on right now.

Are people upset 50% of their roster was born outside of the country? Don’t know the norms of World Cup country but that seems high.

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ibrazeous t1_izought wrote

With how far they have come, it's obvious they are wetting their shirts and giving their all to the country. Maybe not born there, but very much culturally Moroccan as the diaspora abroad keeps the traditions and links to the old country

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Angelusflos t1_izskbjh wrote

Ziyech doesn't speak a word of Arabic. He only speaks Dutch and English.

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ibrazeous t1_izszegr wrote

Not sure what point you are trying to make. But none of us are an authority on how a person can identify culturally. He did choose to represent Morocco, he likely shares a significant number of cultural values picked from home regardless of what language he uses. At the end of the day, only he can say what he feels is his cultural identity.

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Angelusflos t1_izt7onr wrote

Pretty hard to be Moroccan when he wouldn't be able to communicate with anyone there unless they spoke Dutch or English. Looks to me like his identity is reactionary based on being a minority in a mostly white nation.

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Knitaddicttt t1_j02qb39 wrote

I love this! 😆 So here's a lesson to enlighten your ignorant ass: when Ziyech asks for translation when reporters ask him in Arabic, it's because they're speaking MSA (Modern standard Arabic) , not Darija (Moroccan Arabic). MSA is taught at schools in Morocco and you find it in official documents but we don't speak it, we speak Darija our dialect and there are many regions in the country where Amazigh is spoken. He does speak some Darija and he also speaks Amazigh which is the language he grew up with at home since his family is from North east Morocco and of Amazigh origin.

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Angelusflos t1_j02qfke wrote

He literally only speaks Dutch and English. You're the one who is ignorant. His father was also born and raised in Holland.

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Knitaddicttt t1_j02uvrp wrote

Ironically his father is buried in Morocco. They don't even feel Dutch enough to be buried in the country and would rather be be buried home despite the huge expenses that entails.

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Angelusflos t1_j02yv2y wrote

I honestly don't care. Ziyech still doesn't speak Arabic.

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PickledCumSock t1_izoqfbj wrote

no, no one really cares about stuff like that. just as long as you're proud to represent the country you play for and you're patriotic <3

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TnYamaneko t1_izqizr3 wrote

Romain Saïss honors people like me who bear a French first name and and Arabic last name, born and raised in France yet proud of Morrocan heritage.

There is an ongoing big push by Morocco to have a competent training center for youngsters in Salé but Morocco will not hate anything from its diaspora, would it be Dutch or French or Canadian (Bono).

This team to me symbolise how despite being from different backgrounds, when everyone gets on the same page, it's possible to do great things. Together.

What a joy to witness them succeed.

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Knitaddicttt t1_j02qnnz wrote

Three of the performers this world cup: Ensiry, Ounahi, and Aguerd trained in Mohamed 6th academy as youngesters.

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TnYamaneko t1_j02rqi3 wrote

That's a solid point, I think Aguerd even went to the very first batch if I'm not mistaken.

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No_Championship9051 t1_izqem4k wrote

It shouldnt even be considered an issue.. I would say at least they are of moroccan decent A lot of the other teams have nationalised players who are of other decent..

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sumlikeitScott t1_izqexei wrote

Yeah I agree just saw a chart that said they had by far the most out of any country. I thought the us had a lot but they’re at 30% and is obviously a very multi cultural country.

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ezomar t1_izrd2w6 wrote

Whoever is upset at that is a weirdo. Considering a player like Hakimi could play for Spain and chooses not too says a lot about how he appreciates his roots and culture

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Knitaddicttt t1_j02qx20 wrote

Interestingly enough, he said recently in an interview with LA Marca that he played for Spanish youth team but didn't feel he belonged, it wasn't his place.

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Kol_ t1_izsg8j5 wrote

Why do people need to bring this up every time? All the first world countries currently in the World Cup have similar or the same situation with a ton of foreign born players. If you’d like let’s take out all the “foreign” players out of France, Netherlands etc

We always have to bring down 3rd world countries when they’re doing better than us.

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sumlikeitScott t1_izshmuo wrote

No one’s bringing them down. In fact most people that responded are positive. I’m not an avid fifa fan so I asked a question on it.

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Kol_ t1_izsjv8g wrote

Sorry bro my bad. I know you weren’t bringing them down. Just got a little emotional because I’ve seen some other comments and it’s been driving me crazy. Accept my apology. I’m rooting for them so hard this WC.

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VisitPortlandPodcast t1_iztgmvx wrote

They are actually the team with the HIGHEST % of players born in the Country they represent. The vast majority of teams are less than 20%.

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sumlikeitScott t1_izthmei wrote

I’m confused on what information you used as everyone else’s data says the opposite.

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VisitPortlandPodcast t1_izti5vc wrote

You are correct. The graphic I was looking at was representing exactly the opposite of what I thought it was depicting. I’m an idiot. I’ll show myself out…

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