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raylan_givens6 t1_izmmd04 wrote

based on what evidence?

he said he hadn't been feeling well for a while

and he collapsed in a public space , probably a cardiac arrest

sounds like his brother is trying to find some deeper reason where none exists or maybe he's hoping his brother becomes some martyr....

despite people's prejudices they have to ask themselves , what good what it do for qatar to "murder" this guy?

they're interested in making money, promoting themselves as an economic hub, and this WC is their prime opportunity to do so. what good what it do to murder an American journalist?

cause he wore a rainbow t-shirt a few days ago? oh please

he's not a martyr. he wasn't killed. sadly, he just died, it happens.

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wolfpack1986 t1_iznrdld wrote

Grief is challenging and takes you in weird places. As a medical professional, this sounds like a missed unstable angina that turned into a massive MI. Happens and it’s terrible.

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ProtoplanetaryNebula t1_iznpyzu wrote

Indeed. Everyone who wear rainbow shirts was asked to change them or cover them up or whatever, there were probably more than 10k people this happened to. Qatar is not going to arrange to kill anyone for wearing a rainbow shirt, they don't like rainbows, but they don't hate them that much.

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_The_Bear t1_iznujte wrote

Remember the two English fans who showed up dressed as crusaders in full chainmail? They didn't wind up dead, that's way more offensive than a rainbow shirt.

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Ubermenschen t1_iznyu3e wrote

Neither is offensive, but Qatar still lives in the 13th century.

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ProtoplanetaryNebula t1_iznz8jp wrote

Not sure what you mean, but they are probably dressed at St.George, who is the patron saint of England and who the St.George flag (England flag) is named after. You see thousands of people dressed like that for England games. The chain mail increases the cost of the outfit, so most opt not to use it.

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tribal209 t1_izqgzra wrote

Only difference is those 10 k people don't have a voice, He does.

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TrashbatLondon t1_izo5has wrote

He was continually critical of the human rights abuses of an authoritarian regime. It’s hardly the biggest leap in the world to suggest that there might be something suspicious happening.

The idea that the Qatari’s are an innocent bunch of simple business people who just want to promote trade is naive, if not propaganda. They are an awful regime, who disregard human life, including the latest dismissal of the death of a stadium worker, coincidentally the same subject the now dead journalist wrote about the day before he died.

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Plantsandanger t1_izpmcrp wrote

I mean, all deaths are accompanied by cardiac arrest - it just means your heart has stopped, which every heart does in death. The issue is WHY/HOW it stopped - what caused the cardiac arrest? Bronchitis on its own doesn’t cause cardiac arrest (myocarditis can, but that’s beyond bronchitis). I’m not saying it was a conspiracy and the guy was killed, but I am saying “he died of cardiac arrest” is about as telling as “he died when his body hit the ground” - WHY did his body hit the ground? Did he fall? Jump? Was he pushed? Was he previously at a great height or did he trip while walking at ground level and only died because his head his a curb? Or did he fall because he was shot or hit by a car and the bit about the ground is a red herring?

I also assume his brother, like most family, is upset over the sudden, unexpected loss of a loved one. And like most family, there’s a good chance one member is a bit of a lunatic, conspiracy theorist, or just prone to lashing out when upset rather than calmly accepting horrific news with the stoicism of a Buddhist monk. So even though I think it’s bs to claim he died of cardiac arrest with zero follow up on what caused the cardiac arrest, I also think that most people would be upset enough to sound crazy after their sibling died, especially if they don’t have answers (because cardiac arrest is not an answer).

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kingofwale t1_izno2tp wrote

Who needs evidence when your feeling itself is more valid?

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