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adamchain t1_izmd24m wrote

He got poisoned. His brother, who is openly gay, already made his thoughts public, too. What a joke FIFA & Qatar are.

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omdano t1_izmi5pd wrote

Replying to adamchain (#897,872)

>He got poisoned.

Source?

"There's no source cause I made it the fuck up"

Quote from CNBC:

In a post Dec. 5 on his personal website, Wahl said he felt sick and that medical personnel on-site at the World Cup told him he probably had bronchitis. He said he was given antibiotics.“My body finally broke down on me,” he wrote. “Three weeks of little sleep, high stress and lots of work can do that to you. What had been a cold over the last 10 days turned into something more severe on the night of the USA-Netherlands game, and I could feel my upper chest take on a new level of pressure and discomfort.”

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KanyeWestBrick t1_izmjz3o wrote

Those Qataris are some spiteful SOBs

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Zeniphyre t1_izmuqlo wrote

Replying to omdano (#898,118)

Qatar literally enslaved migrants and put billions of dollars into a stupid sports event rather than taking care of their people. They ban homosexual content, push this onto foreigners, and treat everyone like shit.

They have a shit culture and they still participate in slavery. It's not racism. Fuck Qatar.

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Tollkeeperjim t1_izmvldq wrote

Replying to ITeachYourKidz (#897,699)

Seriously? In his own words:

“My body finally broke down on me. Three weeks of little sleep, high stress and lots of work can do that to you. What had been a cold over the last 10 days turned into something more severe on the night of the USA-Netherlands game, and I could feel my upper chest take on a new level of pressure and discomfort. I didn't have Covid (I test regularly here), but I went into the medical clinic at the main media center today, and they said I probably have bronchitis. They gave me a course of antibiotics and some heavy-duty cough syrup, and I'm already feeling a bit better just a few hours later. But still: No bueno.”

Stop making assumptions.

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SuddenlyFlamingos t1_izmw8cy wrote

Replying to adamchain (#897,872)

What does the brothers sexuality have to do with this? I'm seeing a hell of a lot of people just randomly pass that info along like it has relevance. Maybe wait and see what the fuck went on. (edit: ignore this fucking guy. I remember them now from like years ago. Theyre just edgelords for karma)

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BIue_scholar t1_izmxi3s wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#897,729)

You really think the Qatari government are stupid enough to assassinate a journalist during their own tournament? The guy complained about being ill for weeks.. Use your head

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luckylebron t1_izmy4m7 wrote

According to early reports, he had a respiratory illness and chronic fatigue.

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Dandan0005 t1_izmz591 wrote

Replying to Tollkeeperjim (#898,584)

“In his own words”

He said he was sick? How would you expect him to know how or why?

That doesn’t disprove shit.

The fact is a middle aged, otherwise healthy man dropping dead from a respiratory disease that’s NOT Covid is extremely rare.

Combine that with the fact that he’s in a country where he’s been publicly critical of their human rights abuses and had made a massive scene bc he was wearing a rainbow shirt a few days ago, and yeah it’s suspicious as shit.

Maybe it is just a massive coincidence, but it’s no stretch to say it’s extremely suspicious.

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Dandan0005 t1_izmz95y wrote

Replying to BIue_scholar (#898,645)

Let me introduce you to Jamal khashoggi.

Qatar knows everyone knows they bribed their way into this World Cup, and they don’t give a fuck.

Saudi knows everyone knows they killed khashoggi, and they don’t give a fuck.

Qatar doesn’t give a shit what people think.

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Safe-Round-354 t1_izn0caa wrote

Say the worst is proven and it’s murder, and the rabbit hole traces back to some shady Qatar government official—— would that lead to some international crisis to the point where military actions would be considered?

I’m assuming Qatar wouldn’t commit this crime because of the following:

Qatar is one of the United States' closest military partners in the region. Al-Udeid Air Base is home to the Combined Air Operation Center, which hosts 18 nations and is responsible for all Coalition air operations in the Middle East and Central Asia

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Fat_IRL t1_izn5uf8 wrote

Replying to Tollkeeperjim (#898,584)

I totally get what you're saying and I do agree to an extent. No reason to jump to conclusions. Absolutely true.

But, if you wanna play the conspiracy card, which I don't agree with really... he wrote that after he was detained. He got sick after being arrested. So there's always gonna be doubt until his wife says otherwise.

His wife convinced me to get vaccinated because of an appearance she had on a sports podcast I listen to. I also listened to grants podcasts. I didn't know they were married until just an hour ago.

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Kikutwo t1_iznbvry wrote

Breaking news, people die. Every day. Even young people. Even seemingly healthy people.

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TrashbatLondon t1_iznel93 wrote

Blaming countries with atrocious human rights records for the death of a journalist who has been recently critical of their regime is just part of our culture.

Can all the people scrambling to dismiss the story please respect that?

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psicowysiwyg t1_izngh8u wrote

Replying to Kikutwo (#899,035)

So many comments about how people don't just die in their 40s... wrm, yeah, they do. Not constantly, but it's not a rare occurrence, hell Christian Eriksen had a heart attack playing in the Euros a few years ago, and other players have died on the pitch. Healthy people die, it happens.

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Choochilla t1_izniqth wrote

Until there’s an autopsy you won’t know whether foul play was involved so why speculate

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Londonforce t1_iznk163 wrote

Replying to Kikutwo (#899,035)

Especially when they are in their 40s, with no conditions, having just have written articles critical of Qatar, with a cause of death that includes "fatigue"

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TooMuchRope t1_iznpfa5 wrote

People have been assassinated with heart attack inducing toxin for decades

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X0AN t1_iznr031 wrote

The same man who was detained in Qatar for wearing a LGBT t-shirt?

Not sketchy at all..

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Applecar101 t1_iznsgtm wrote

Replying to Tollkeeperjim (#898,584)

Lol this doesn’t disprove anything. Its all plausible. Whats worse than internet investigators? Internet judges/lawyers lmao. No one know wtf happened in that shithole country.

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kieranjackwilson OP t1_iznshpz wrote

Replying to Safe-Round-354 (#898,727)

I intentionally chose to post this article because because the headline wasn’t click baiting that he may have been killed.

That being said, I don’t agree with you logic. Saudi Arabia is a US ally and funded the 9/11 attacks. They also murdered a journalist who was a US a resident and whose children are US citizens. The US has set the precedent that even the most vile act of terrorism against our nation goes unpunished. So what’s killing one more journalist going to do?

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That being said, I’m not saying he was killed, nor am I saying he wasn’t. I just think this incident deserves a healthy dose of skepticism. Terrible coincidences happen all the time, and journalists are killed all the time.

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scootscooterson t1_iznx3n1 wrote

Replying to Applecar101 (#899,888)

What he wasn’t set out to disprove anything, very simply to add more context to what the internet investigators have suggested. The takeaway of that post was to not make assumptions, yet your takeaway was the opposite.

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Applecar101 t1_iznxem0 wrote

Replying to scootscooterson (#900,168)

Incorrect. The irony of it all is that you are “assuming” that he died of sickness… that is an assumption with partial evidence, however compelling you may THINK it is, check your assumptions. Im just saying both are plausible:)

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scootscooterson t1_iznxvwg wrote

Replying to Applecar101 (#900,193)

Lol “incorrect” I’ll be more specific. “This doesn’t disprove anything” when he was very direct in that there’s more evidence to present. Those are different parts of a trial at the most basic of levels, presenting evidence vs suggesting conclusions.

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stamekobif t1_iznzkal wrote

He was a loyal vaxxie.

His symptoms could’ve been much worse.

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mitchrsmert t1_izo26dy wrote

Replying to Applecar101 (#899,888)

They didn't say it disproved it, it adds context which happens to be on the contrary of the assumption that it was something nefarious, which is how the original comment reads.

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mitchrsmert t1_izo3d7r wrote

Replying to Applecar101 (#900,193)

I don't mean to be rude, I agree all is plausible right now, but you should aim to improve your reading comprehension. Not only did the other commenter not state that assumption, there is no way in which is was even implied. What's funny about the exchange between you two is that, ultimately, you're both on the same page about the most important point: it's all possible.

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Applecar101 t1_izo44xv wrote

Replying to mitchrsmert (#900,528)

Lol the orginal remark says “seriously?” And then literally quotes the dead person after someone said it’s suspicious. He clearly disagrees with someone being suspicious about this. So in the end he is assuming no foul play took place. Tell me how is that miscomprehended? 🤪

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Applecar101 t1_izo4g1c wrote

Replying to mitchrsmert (#900,459)

He literally said “seriously?” on someone saying there is something suspicious. Thats all suspicious. You can agree to disagree on whether its suspicious, but clearly he believes it is not. Thats all we are arguing lol

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mitchrsmert t1_izo583e wrote

Replying to Applecar101 (#900,573)

The comment remarks "seriously?" Because the origjnal comment strongly conveys a lack of doubt that something nefarious is the CoD. I.e., it assumes foul play. The remark "seriously?" Is in regard to that assumption. This is reinforced by the final sentence in that comment that says "don't make assumptions"

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Applecar101 t1_izo5uzq wrote

Replying to mitchrsmert (#900,636)

No, that original comment doesn’t assume foul play. He literally just said it was suspicious, which means there is doubt. If you’re suspicious of something you are not saying its true without a doubt. Thats where we have different interpretations of what that means. But hey, you say I need to work on my comprehension lol way to be open to having a different viewpoint/interpretation of something. what a great guy you must be to talk to in person.

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SpaceFace11 t1_izo6itp wrote

It isn't impossible to poison someone with something contaminated with Covid-19.. just saying.

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Thugluvdoc t1_izo78we wrote

This was murder and we can’t let this go. Saudi and MBS got away with murdering an American journalist because of trump, but not this time

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mitchrsmert t1_izo7mje wrote

Replying to Applecar101 (#900,676)

They said not suspicious sarcastically. Sarcasm used to emphasize the opposite opinion. Emphasing suspicion in this context is ubiquitous: it is to suggest a strong suspicion. You could argue there is still doubt and it not strictly an assumption, sure, but what is not subjective is that there is no evidence at the moment to persuade one over the other. That's the point. That's why the commenter said "seriously?"

Edit: I said no evidence, but in fact there is evidence to the contrary which is not to suggest there was no foul play, but that it's ridiculous to have formed a strong opinion already

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Thugluvdoc t1_izo909e wrote

Replying to DoItForTheTanqueray (#900,779)

Normally I’d laugh, but he was a loving brother and husband who was supporting his gay brother by wearing a rainbow shirt, then published an article about qatars slave trade. Then died the next day…

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DoItForTheTanqueray t1_izo9ihh wrote

Replying to Thugluvdoc (#900,840)

He also was complaining of heart issues which is not normal for a person that age. He literally said his “body had broke on him” so no, not a killing. Just the clot shot doing its thing.

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mitchrsmert t1_izo9myw wrote

Replying to Applecar101 (#900,831)

That rationale didn't change from my first comment, if thats mental gymnastics that just tells you're having difficulty.

And me edit was to further prove my point. Now you're resorting to just calling something incorrect as if your word is God. Good luck with that. I see you did it once already.

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BurlyAttacker t1_izoaa4t wrote

Looks like Qatar needs the US to send em over a lil freedom package....

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Applecar101 t1_izoab56 wrote

Replying to mitchrsmert (#900,878)

“What is subjective is that there is no evidence” is what you said in order to prove that suspicion was not warranted. Then edited and said there is evidence for both sides. So all in all, the original comment of something suspicious happening is correct so that changed from your original stance. Its great. We can all learn together one step at a time.

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mitchrsmert t1_izob4k5 wrote

Replying to Applecar101 (#900,896)

Again, your reading comprehension is failing you. I said there is no evidence to persuade one over the other. The circumstances warrant suspicion, but the evidence does not.

Edit: to clarify, nothing about my "stance" has changed. The rationale is the same, how you seem to be interpreting is what is volatile... which speaks to reading comprehension.

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Thugluvdoc t1_izod3np wrote

Replying to DoItForTheTanqueray (#900,859)

Fascinating. As a doctor for 15 years, I’m going to disagree with you here. Someone exhausted and feeling broken down at age 48 otherwise healthy as we know, the chances of dropping dead are less than 0.1%. Check the mortality statistics in this age group. However I’m sure their autopsy will be honest and accurate /s fuck Qatar

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[deleted] t1_izoeeyv wrote

Replying to Tollkeeperjim (#898,584)

He was also a super healthy human.. but he was given the incorrect medicine to treat his bronchitis which made it worse and eventually killed him. Apparently high dose cough syrup makes bronchitis worse and antibiotics also do nothing for it so he was technically mistreated.

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adz568 t1_izof7gl wrote

Replying to X0AN (#899,804)

I thought the same till I found out he had bronchitis and was having trouble sleeping. His brother lied for attention saying he was fully healthy when he obviously wasn’t

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_klover t1_izoig9z wrote

Replying to X0AN (#899,804)

it’s not. you’re connecting dots that aren’t there. he had health issues. he was getting over bronchitis from last month and just had covid over the summer. it’s a sad situation for sure but spreading misinformation is a little bit more sad

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Saspa314 t1_izois4b wrote

So many Qatari bots running rampant on this subreddit

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TripperSD93 t1_izq4w3k wrote

Wow the Russian bots and MAGA fucks are here in full force

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Thugluvdoc t1_izqi5jm wrote

Replying to DoItForTheTanqueray (#904,019)

No problem. Sometimes after you make money, you want to switch careers and try something new. Maybe when you go thru puberty and make some money, it’ll make sense. Boredom does things to smart people

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DoItForTheTanqueray t1_izqqf0m wrote

Replying to Thugluvdoc (#904,462)

Kinda weird you keep on about the Qatari thing as if I have ever defended Qatar? Grant Wahl died from the clot shot. You are a liar. You are not in IB, you are not a doctor. You are a neck beard virtue signaling loser.

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Thugluvdoc t1_izqrv6j wrote

Replying to DoItForTheTanqueray (#904,467)

You aren’t in IB. You bought a chad and brad vest that you wear to your high school pre cal class and named yourself wolfofdouchstreet on your ps3. You couldn’t spell usmle, I passed all 3 before starting my internship. Good luck with your Qatari BF

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