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FORZA-R t1_ix8iuup wrote

Says everything you need to know about the Qatari-cocksucking FIFA

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bluetriumphantcloud t1_ix8mfty wrote

As long as it's hetero-cocksucking. The gay kind is illegal.

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MemorySnake t1_ix910bd wrote

Fuck no! There ain't nothing gay about getting your dick sucked! You're the ones that're gay for sucking my dick!

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teabagmoustache t1_ix9iqot wrote

What's more masculine than one erect penis?

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Rainbow-Death t1_ix9b1il wrote

So no kissing cousins?

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Obairamhain t1_ix9w684 wrote

The gulf region is actually very fond of kissing cousins.

Traditional tribal approaches to the marriage of cousins have seen the gulf region have very high rates of cousin marriage.

As an example, the kingdom of Saudi Arabia has the highest rates of consanguinity (marrying family members) in the world

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CampCritter t1_ixblo9v wrote

Until I read “Saudi Arabia”, I thought you were talking about the gulf coast of the United States and that this was gonna be a joke about Alabama, lol

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rtels2023 t1_ixaalct wrote

Infantino would get a sex change to make the Qataris feel better about him sucking their cocks

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ZoneMaster23 t1_ixbf854 wrote

Spoiler. They do all kinds of gay stuff, they just murder others for it.

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bluetriumphantcloud t1_ix8maop wrote

"We were prepared to pay fines that would normally apply to breaches of kit regulations and had a strong commitment to wearing the armband. However, we cannot put our players in the situation where they might be booked or even forced to leave the field of play,"

FIFA being the muscle for an oppressive regime that's terrified of rainbow hearts.

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BoringWozniak t1_ix9bmdn wrote

I kinda want to see every player in the tournament sent off and for the whole thing to collapse.

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shrouple t1_ixaj0pw wrote

Probably what Qatar wants and then their team wins by default.

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RobGrey03 t1_ixbw6w1 wrote

"The two sweetest words in the English language!" - Qatar, probably

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j_la t1_ixconh1 wrote

“De fault! De fault! De fault!”

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wwarnout t1_ix8k5xv wrote

This, the day after Infantino claimed he wants to unite the world.

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LUN4T1C-NL t1_ixa3qof wrote

He wants to unite all the worlds money in his pockets.

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Tylerjamiz t1_ix9j9vf wrote

Next up. FIFA bans soccer at World Cup

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bargle0 t1_ixa5id4 wrote

That won’t happen. It makes too much money.

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Zandandido t1_ixaml4k wrote

If Qatar paid FIFA enough, FIFA would do it.

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Nexrosus t1_ix91zxv wrote

So the dude who claims to be/understand everyone oppressed under the sun wants to ban a symbol of love at his own event? Sounds about right

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Knerd5 t1_ix8lmg0 wrote

Can’t hurt the moneys feeling, that’s not nice.

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Tborg42 t1_ix9wshp wrote

And countries are complying. Shame on the federations, and shame on the players who went there.

Above all fuck Qatar, and fuck FIFA. It’s their mess, but the nations shouldn’t participate in it.

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UnoSadPeanut t1_ixbgupq wrote

It is a bit silly to blame the players, no?

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Shakyy-iwnl t1_ixbps4g wrote

It’s very silly and anyone who blames the players is uneducated on the situation, and on football as a whole.

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Tborg42 t1_ixbtifu wrote

Don’t think it’s the players that created the mess, but they didn’t clean it up either.

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UnoSadPeanut t1_ixhbq81 wrote

Okay, but that logic can be used for anyone in the world. Why have not you or I done anything to clean it up? Why are we not dedicating our lives to fighting for equality? Why is it fair to ask them to sacrifice their careers and efforts they put into their sport while we sacrifice nothing?

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Tborg42 t1_ixhcptt wrote

I am not participating. Not actively, not passively, not financially. So I would say that my hands are clean in this. They players chose not to clean theirs. It shouldn’t have come to them having to make that decision, just like it shouldn’t come to me making the decision. But it did, and I absolutely judge people on their behaviour, even if it is under circumstances they didn’t create.

They wouldn’t be sacrificing their careers. They’d miss a single playoff, don’t make a mountain out of a molehill. It’s multi millionaires, who would miss out on a prestige project, which comes around every other year. I didn’t claim that it was ruining my career, when it was evident that we should stop doing business in Russia. Because it didn’t a it just sucked to be limited - both in terms of income and prestige - because Putin (or in this case Qatar and FIFA) is an ass.

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UnoSadPeanut t1_ixjzne6 wrote

Why can't I judge you for not spending your weekends protesting outside of the Qatar embassy? You had as much to do with any injustice as the players did. Why should their sacrifice be required but yours not?

If your stance is that missing your shot at playing in the world cup is not a big deal, then you have never strived to be the best at anything. It is a big deal for them, much bigger than you giving up your weekends... yet you don't do it and ask them give up something much bigger.

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Tborg42 t1_ixl6sj4 wrote

No, I don’t - because I don’t participate. They add value to the event, I don’t. Can’t you see the difference?

And don’t give me shit like that - I have literally won national championships, and competed internationally. I know exactly what drive it requires to get to where they are. But people are pretending it’s the only one thing they’ve been training for, which it clearly isn’t (for the larger countries anyway). There’s an isentical tournament in 4 years, and other prestigious events in the mean time too. Players there have literally retired from international football earlier, before changing their mind, so it can’t mean that much to them.

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TheKingOfTCGames t1_ixlo92r wrote

Lmao you are kind of a scrub huh. Always easy to ask someone else to sacrifice while you sit on your fat ass. Some of these players arent even going to be playing in 4 years

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Tborg42 t1_ixlocwu wrote

The “sacrifice” I ask is literally doing the same as I am - nothing.

But that comment tells me a lot about who you are, as a person - so I think I am just gonna park this one here, and stop feeding the Saudi Troll.

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TheKingOfTCGames t1_ixtjavi wrote

you don't really understand how the world cup works in a country that gives a shit about soccer do you.

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it's not about sport at that point.

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UnoSadPeanut t1_ixmwl2n wrote

Why does them adding value matter? The point is you are expecting someone to make a significant sacrifice to address a social issue they had no part in creating, yet you are unwilling to make similar (even smaller) sacrifices to address the same issue.

Also, if you are going to take the stance that playing in the world cup is not a big deal for the players, I feel like you are not debating in good faith. So best of luck to you. I truly hope you examine your stance on this topic and change your point of view, but as it is now, I feel you are not willing to even entertain changing your opinion.

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Tborg42 t1_ixn6cra wrote

You are right - I am not willing to entertain accepting genocides, slavery, and corruption. Silly me.

You keep calling it a significant sacrifice. It isn’t. It’s very rich people missing out on a prestige project that comes back every other year.

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UnoSadPeanut t1_ixnr79z wrote

Then why do you not give up your weekends to go protest outside of the Qatar embassy? Again, my point is that it is unfair of you to put that expectation on them, when it is not being applied to us all.

With regards to your opinion that the world cup does not matter to the players, I'm sorry- but you are just wrong. Participating in and possibility winning a world cup is a major objective/achievement for all players. It blows my mind that you are willing to die on this hill, and if you choose too, there is nothing else I can say to convince you. You are living in your own world.

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Tborg42 t1_ixnvvb1 wrote

  1. I am not sure if you’re trolling or seriously just not understanding. I don’t expect them to do anything actively. The exact opposite. I am giving up watching, as for many others. That’s our “passive” protests, and voting with our wallets. I am simply saying that the same should apply to players. It’s obviously their choice, and they shouldn’t be forced on anyone. But not travelling to a backward country isn’t really a “sacrifice”

  2. of course it matters. Never said it was a “whatever”-event for anyone. Just said it isn’t a once in a lifetime opportunity for any of the European or South American teams. That none of the players will be needing for anything for skipping out one playoff. It’s a prestige project, not anything existential. People have literally lit themselves on fire in that part of the world in an attempt to gain rights. Let’s not call not playing football for 4 weeks a sacrifice, no matter the trophy they are competing for

  3. (as I forgot to reply to that last time) adding value matters tremendously. If I started sending money to Al-Queda, wouldn’t people be right to criticise (and imprison me)? Or should I be completely exonerated because nobody was spending their weekends demonstrating, so they aren’t better than me, even though I actively supported a terrorist organisation?

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UnoSadPeanut t1_ixofbxb wrote

I'm not sure what to say at this point. You live in your own world. Best of luck to you.

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tobymurphy24 t1_ixc4vos wrote

Easy to sit back and say shame on the players when you're behind a screen, but playing a world cup is their life's work and dream. It only comes once to some. Unless there is some real real bad stuff going on (Like genocides etc.) Blaming players for going is ridiculous.

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Tborg42 t1_ixcd0pj wrote

Of course it’s easy, I will happily admit to that.

And yes, it would suck to give up this kind of event due to some execs being idiotic, corrupt, and greedy. But that doesn’t excuse participation. I have quit a previous job (with better pay and be if it’s than the next) due to what I perceived as unethical behaviour in the leadership. So do many others, it’s not like the football players would be the very first in the world to suffer under moral obligations.

I admire that you say “come once’s for some” unlike many who pretends it’s the only one tournament for all the players. For some countries I absolutely get it: qualification alone is a huge fucking deal, and they should be proud. But that doesn’t go for any of the “one love” teams. All of them have qualified for the last couple of ECs and WCs, and are expected to make the next as well.

Ultimately, I don’t know shit about how I would react in this situation, if I was put in it - and I am happy that it’s highly unlikely that I ever have to find out. But I certainly hope I wouldn’t have gone in the first place - or that I would have taken the plane home now at the very least.

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dogshelter t1_ixb29h6 wrote

Shameful. There’s nothing political about supporting human rights equality.

Every team playing should go home. Let Qatar win the World Cup by forfeit.

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ideallyideal t1_ix8qzxb wrote

What a bunch of sad, sad men. Afraid of love.

I'd feel sorry for them if they weren't so evil.

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DegenGolfer t1_ixa7fsd wrote

Middle East are never getting a WC again

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vancityjeep t1_ixaxk5g wrote

If they pay. They will. FIFA isn’t about the game. It’s all about the dollars.

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totalhenry t1_ixbol3b wrote

saudi arabia wants the 2030 world cup. Hope it goes to someone else

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yes_no_maybe_99 t1_ix9u6hp wrote

It's kind of ironic because I've visited several countries like Qatar and the men there all hold hands and kiss each other. Yet they're deathly afraid of gays LOL

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Taniwha26 t1_ixa1zi1 wrote

Footballer should just start using the heart gesture instead.

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TheOnlyOneSon t1_ixahvzq wrote

Wonder what's gonna happen to the lady from England who wore it during her pregame interview....

Any updates on that?

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ErnieAdamsistheKey t1_ixb911h wrote

Someone needs to start selling FUFIFA tshirts during the cup.

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123eyecansee t1_ixbnioj wrote

Not Qatar, FIFA. Their answer? “Fuck you world, you’ll pay and watch this shit anyways.”

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Jimmy_kong253 t1_ixc3pav wrote

For any future world cup host there's now a playbook on how to take control of your world cup thanks to Qatar

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wyvory91 t1_ix905ac wrote

Tells you all you need to know about FIFA. And following another anti-LGBTQ mass shooting. Trash organization

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Krispykross t1_ixa4fxo wrote

5 people killed in a shooting in the United States is a reason for them to bite the hand that’s feeding them? No serious person would think this.

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wyvory91 t1_ixa7ooh wrote

Yeah I guess those 5 people don't matter, aren't representative, whatsoever, of a larger (global) issue, and the US isn't participating in this WC, nor is it the majority site of the next WC

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Krispykross t1_ixaaqfw wrote

It’s a perspective/emotional problem. You have a great night.

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dragosn1989 t1_ixagamc wrote

Of course they do! Any other dictatorship would do the same!🤦‍♂️

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RCmies t1_ixbksmk wrote

I would love to see the athletes protest this and wear whatever that rainbow colour bracelet is. It might have big impact. But they'll probably be threatened with billion dollar fines if they do so. It's sad how fucking retarded these people are.

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bearded_drummer t1_ixbmkkn wrote

So, the FIFA guy doesn’t feel gay anymore??

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Horrid_dog t1_ixc4o4w wrote

Im fed up with LGBT thing. Does my fucking head in.

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MinnieShoof t1_ixc55vd wrote

... but I love Raisin' Canes.

One love! Woof woof!

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Kimchi-slap t1_ixc5pog wrote

If nothing else Qatar did a good job showing how FIFA officials are in open market for anything as long as price is right.

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cellada t1_ixd0uiy wrote

This gives it even more coverage!

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DrJimmour t1_ixocjg9 wrote

What do you expect coming into another country? That's just disrespectful towards host country's culture

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A_Random_Username_0 t1_ixaitnt wrote

How easily could the matches be moved to a non-trash nation in the southern hemisphere (so it’s summer)?

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signalpirate t1_ixb9jb4 wrote

Whatever happened to “ I’m gay, I’m disabled, I’m this or that”.

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downonthesecond t1_ixbjioi wrote

So this is how people felt when players were or weren't kneeling.

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disgruntledpeach t1_ixd7a8b wrote

*when the players were barred from kneeling

I think that's more analogous

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Aaidentimo t1_ixbwr1a wrote

What a bunch of sad, sad men. Afraid of love.

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PuzzleheadedKnee1795 t1_iy4t3uz wrote

This is so stupid. Why can’t people stop being so dense and realize that it is disrespectful to their religion?

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Lowgarr t1_ix9te8w wrote

I would like to ban the middle east from the world, is that possible?

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Puwdineh t1_ixhmax5 wrote

Good. Learn to respect other cultures.

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Mukonuru t1_ixkgrnj wrote

i don't understand this idea that just because something is part of culture doesn't mean it can't be dogshit

bride burning in india was "cultural" and that didn't make it ok either, this is literally no different

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trdamateur t1_ix9oano wrote

Please hack their station blasting gayness all over their airwaves, fuk fifa too

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therealac3 t1_ixadpew wrote

Thanks for taking politics out of the World Cup!

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bobblebob100 t1_ixa87rc wrote

Fifa have always had a rule that political statements like this are banned on the football field. Fifa may have handled it badly but they always do

If the players really feel that strongly dont go to the world cup. But then they lose out on that nice pay cheque

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dogshelter t1_ixb23w9 wrote

But anti discrimination is not political.

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Puwdineh t1_ixhmltd wrote

being gay is the bigger issue here. What next? we're going to accept paedophiles too?

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dogshelter t1_ixkdt56 wrote

Being gay is no different to being straight. Being a pedophile is no different than being a murder

Being you is no different than being a bag of shit.

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Puwdineh t1_ixkomxu wrote

not really you can't set your own arbitrary viewpoints if you accept one the surely the other is moral too.

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bobblebob100 t1_ixbsfdz wrote

Fair enough, but my point still stands.

Qatar are known for this sort of behaviour, if you feel that strongly and want to try do something dont go to the WC

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bigfarv t1_ixatyfl wrote

But why does the "lgbtqia3+4" flag have to be flown everywhere ?

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tantawyk t1_ix9b02h wrote

Same-sex-love for them is like incest, this is a cultural and religious aspect for them and laws that they grow with. Imagine a Qatari comes to your country and tries to register his 2nd wife, which for them is normal, but not allowed in most of the world. Let’s not go into the discussion of what’s right and what’s wrong, I’m just explaining their point of view.

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teabagmoustache t1_ix9iill wrote

What about the point of view of gay Qataris? It's not about gay people wanting to visit Qatar, it's their barbaric treatment of gay people that's one of the problems.

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tantawyk t1_ix9neiq wrote

As I said, I’m not debating what’s right and what’s wrong, I’m simply stating that some stuff can be normal for you, and not normal for other people. As a matter of fact, same case existed in Russia 2018 and there was not a lot of fuss about it.

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teabagmoustache t1_ix9oho7 wrote

And I'm saying it's not about me, it's about discrimination within Qatar of Qatari people.

Being Muslim is not normal to me but you bet your life I would never try to stop someone from following their faith and defend their right to practice it.

Your right about Russia and plenty of people did make a fuss about it then, not as much as today I'll grant you.

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RugerRedhawk t1_ix9wzy7 wrote

But how can they learn if nobody attempts to teach them?

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tantawyk t1_ix9yojv wrote

In order to teach someone, you need to first understand them, do you claim to understand the culture of Qatar? Or do you just despise them and want to shape the way you want?

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iclimbnaked t1_ix9vu52 wrote

Not all cultural aspects deserve respect though.

I think we all know why they’re banning these things. We get it’s their viewpoints. Don’t sign up to host the world game if you don’t want the world expressing itself on that stage.

Basically yah we get why they’re banning these things, but don’t expect people to be okay with it.

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tantawyk t1_ix9xb6s wrote

Who decides the aspects that don’t deserve respect? You?

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iclimbnaked t1_ix9xrpj wrote

Pretty simple. Anything that suppresses/vilifies innate traits of people (assuming it doesn’t infringe on others). IE racism is never okay or worthy of respect even if it’s baked into a culture. Same with sexual orientation.

If you’re born that way, no one gets to hide behind “cultural norms” for being against it.

Doesn’t deserve respect.

Especially when you openly invite the world to your country for a global event where you absolutely knew this would be an issue. Don’t bid for a global event if you can’t handle the criticism for it

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iclimbnaked t1_ixa15ex wrote

Where in my statement did I say it was genetic.

I said innate.

Gay people don’t choose to be gay. Whether that is some genetic combo or something about the environment or not is irrelevant.

But way to immediately misuse the study though. It looked at if any single gene or handful of genes causes it. Just bc it’s not that simple doesn’t make it not genetic. Like literally the article you link says genetics plays a part.

Edit: I get I say born that way. Meant that as more of a sexual orientation isn’t something you choose. It’s just who you are. Not that it’s literally down to a gay gene.

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tantawyk t1_ixa33in wrote

If it’s not purely genetic, then you’re not born this way. It’s absolutely different than being born to a specific race. If your country allows gay relationships, good for you. If some other country for whatever reason doesn’t allow it, you shouldn’t go there and protest it.

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iclimbnaked t1_ixa5sji wrote

In no way does it not being purely genetic not mean it’s not innate. If it’s not a choice you make you shouldn’t be discriminated for it. It’s dead simple.

Regardless the study you link doesn’t rule it out as genetic in the first place. It rules it out as a simple handful of genes. Could be it’s a pretty complex interaction of them.

I’d agree with your premise of don’t show up to a country and protest things if Qatar themselves didn’t invite the world. At that point it’s totally fair to call them out for their BS.

You don’t choose to be black, you don’t choose to be gay. No cultural norms of repressing either deserves respect.

Hell I don’t think say jailing of Muslims even if it was a “cultural norm” should be respected and that’s something that is a choice. You choose your religion.

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tantawyk t1_ixa9ura wrote

I didn’t say it’s not complex, I’m just saying that you’re not born with it. And in countries like Qatar, you’re not raised into it. Each person/entity defines their borders, what are your borders? Would you be fine with incest? I don’t have to agree with everything you do to respect you as a human being. If I invite you to my home, I don’t have to allow everything you do to be done inside my home. If we don’t have the same way of thinking, that doesn’t mean we have to be enemies.

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iclimbnaked t1_ixaap8w wrote

There’s a difference between okay with and actively jailing people for it.

I’m not okay with incest but if two adults choose to do that. Then whatever. I can think it’s disgusting but they absolutely shouldn’t be jailed for it. (Things do get fuzzy here given it can result in harmful genetic abnormalities to a potential child)

I can be friendly with someone who thinks being gay is wrong. I’m never going to be friendly with someone who thinks people should be jailed for things they can’t change about themselves. Ie think being gay is wrong all you want. Jailing and discriminating for it is the line.

Not going to police anyone’s thoughts even if I disagree. It’s when you take the action of discrimination that it changes.

It’s not deserving of respect anymore than racism or religious discrimination is.

Also you can not be enemies but still think it’s totally valid to call out your friends when they’re being shitty people.

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tantawyk t1_ixaeaet wrote

That’s how countries show that they’re not okay with something. Punishment. I can list you a number of things that Muslims are not allowed to do in Europe and US, and they get punished/expelled if they do it. Why is this in any way different than what Qatar is doing? Each person has their boundaries, and each country has it’s rules. This is life as we know it.

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iclimbnaked t1_ixaf5dc wrote

Each country is allowed their rules.

That doesn’t mean said rules deserve respect. Never going to respect active discrimination

That’s also life as we know it. Respect is earned. Not defaulted to.

Plenty of countries have done all kinds of evil things. They don’t deserve respect for them just bc they’re a country.

The world has the freedom to judge Qatar for its actions. No ones owed respect by default hiding behind “culture”. Remember, Qatar invited this spotlight on themselves, if they didn’t want criticism than don’t invite the world to your country.

I’d also argue whatever things Muslims are punished for doing in Europe/USA also shouldn’t be respected. (Assuming it doesn’t harm anyone)Pretty simple

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Julch t1_ixc24mj wrote

A number of things ?

List ONE that isn't inherently illegal to begin with.

Modern countries will let you practice your faith freely, while also letting you be whoever you are.

Sure you won't be able to legally marry several women in my country but you can still totally legally be in a relationship with as many people as you want. Also lets be honest, how often is polygamy actually an equal partnership ? Most countries that still allow polygamy are severely patriarchic and only allow men to have several wives but certainly not vice versa while also stripping women of most if not all their rights (freedom, education, jobs, voting, driving, etc.)

I fully support not allowing such a barbaric form of quasi slavery.

[EDIT] Btw lets not put Europe or any modern country in one pot with the US since most states are literally third world countries by every measure used to define said status. The US has long ceased to be a beacon of freedom and is barely functioning at this point.

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tantawyk t1_ixc388y wrote

You think you know everything don’t you? I don’t feel like this is going anywhere, I’ll just save my time and go watch the world cup

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Julch t1_ixdbvec wrote

Aka my non argument (and closet bigotry) isn't leading anywhere and I'll walk away before I dig myself an even deeper hole?

If you actually want to see how much crazy shit Qatar has done / is still doing, go watch John Oliver's segment on the World Cup..

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PorkshireTerrier t1_ix9e0bk wrote

Lmao just do 2 seconds of research online, any news source you want, idealy middle eastern:

There is drinking in religious countries. There is prostitution ( one night marriages) in middle eastern countries.

Not saying EVERYONE does it. Not judging right or wrong. But do they Practice what they Preach: NO. Just the way no one does.

Cultural sensitivity is one thing, this is just hypocrisy.

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tantawyk t1_ix9osog wrote

But that’s not the culture they were raised into, the stuff you mentioned are done secretly by a small portion of people.

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TimeTravelMishap t1_ixags22 wrote

That doesn't change the fact that their point of view is ass backwards and wrong

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