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ButtholeCandies t1_iwig9d7 wrote

This is what liberals in the USA and Europe have never understood. It’s not a choice. The hijab ban was progressive and tolerating the subjugation of women isn’t freedom.

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WickedYetiOfTheWest t1_iwis6tc wrote

Surely you realize that the Iranian government, which is a religious theocracy, is famously one the most conservative governments in the world lol.

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jdbolick t1_iwiszrk wrote

Absolutely, but there has been a staggering level of denial from those groups regarding the nature and threat of the Iranian government. Reddit is complicit as well, as it has been infected with pro-Iranian propaganda for years.

The Iranian people themselves are young and progressive, so when the day finally comes that they get self-determination, I have very high hopes for Iran going from one of the worst regimes on the planet to one of the best influences in the region.

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ButtholeCandies t1_iwit59g wrote

Yes, I'm Iranian.

That's why I support Hijab bans in western countries. I understand that it's not a choice and how foundational of a norm it is for the cultural subjugation of women.

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izvin t1_iwirwpt wrote

The same liberals who will celebrate hijab and deny any possibility of misogyny arising from it are just comforted by the fact that it will never be forced upon them. Even outside of Iran which is one of the only countries beyond isis where it violently forced onto all women, in countries with less extreme laws it is often socially pressured onto women.

This point is quite relevant with the world cup since even with all of the outrage around Qatar you still don't see anyone speaking about the lack of women's rights as a human rights injustice there. Sharia law is just their culture and it would be islamaphobic to criticize it when it comes to women there, but watch how that rationale gets completely ignored when it's white gender queer liberals who want to party at a world cup stadium built with the blood of slave labour. There is nothing unreasonable about calling about human rights abuses for any group, if your moral stances are genuine you don't cherry pick them.

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