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tommypopz t1_iw6s63r wrote

BEN STOKES DOES IT AGAIN

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old_chelmsfordian t1_iw6u76k wrote

Never underestimate the ability of Ben Stokes to win cricket games through nothing but pure will

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bdzz t1_iw6sdup wrote

Oh man that was a great match! Went from "well that's easy for England" to "wait Pakistan doing it?" to "never mind it's coming home". This really feels like a "meta-defying" moment in T20, BatDeep™ is no joke

But Afridi man, so unlucky but that was a good call. He was just limping. When he left the field felt like the soul of the team left too. It was over from that point.

Also Sam Curran!! 4-0-12-3 in the final and he is 24 years old.

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GRI23 t1_iw6wzcy wrote

I do wonder how the final would have gone had Shaheen not got injured, at the start of his over it felt like the game was almost a 50/50 but losing him and having to turn to Iftikhar ruined Pakistan's options.

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HFY_HFY t1_iw71cyn wrote

What do the points mean? Hits outs runs something?

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mark_commadore t1_iw72h0i wrote

4 overs. Each over has 6 balls/pitches

0 maidens. A Maiden over is one with no score (good for the bowler)

12 runs. The total runs scored off his bowling

3 wickets. Number of outs he got.

In context, those are incredible numbers. You'd normally see 20 plus runs in this type of game and 2 wickets is pretty good.

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orlanthi t1_iw726zl wrote

4overs 0 msidens (overs with no runs scired) 12 runs total 3 wickets taken. In limited overs cricket, that is an amazing total.

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nikamsumeetofficial t1_iw9ywwn wrote

All you need to know is they won it convincingly. Both semis and finals were dominating victories.

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biswa290701 t1_iw6spk2 wrote

ODI champions first and now T20 champions. Truly defining how to be white ball champions

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SnooDingos5780 t1_iw91h55 wrote

Finally! It took them about a good 310 years to finally be the champions in both formats.

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dwightsrus t1_iw94z4n wrote

For 80% of those 310 years the two formats didn’t exist.

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TheCricketAnimator t1_iw6ujix wrote

Ben Stokes doing the most Ben Stokes thing ever. Shitting the bed entire tournament only to come alive in the finals.

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mark_commadore t1_iw72nne wrote

Must be so good for him to know he doesn't need to carry the team. He can have 4 bad games and it doesn't matter.

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jesuspizzabeer t1_iw6shfn wrote

That was tense!

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nerdy_subha OP t1_iw6skbc wrote

Afridi won't be able to sleep tonight. Bad luck for Pak.

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bigdaddi_renjit t1_iw6tmmw wrote

Hopefully he won't blame himself

His career is more important than this game. It is was an easy choice

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dezzick3 t1_iw75o3u wrote

I don’t think it would have changed the result but it would have made it a damn sight closer

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poorguy55 t1_iw6w0tn wrote

Best white ball team in the world.

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Vladimir_Putting t1_iw7bb1x wrote

Can someone explain "whiteball" to me?

I understand the basics of cricket, but never heard this term.

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kante_get_a_win t1_iw7c10a wrote

They use a white ball in T20 and One-Dayers and a red ball in test. White ball=short format cricket.

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GiddiOne t1_iw85vui wrote

Everybody always skips pink ball (day/night tests)

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tobymurphy24 t1_ix0rfvk wrote

It's the same format as tests, and it's easier to say red ball cricket than red/pink ball cricket

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ComadoreJackSparrow t1_iw7c2jv wrote

There are two versions of cricket. Test cricket and one day cricket.

Test cricket is played with a red ball. One day cricket is played with a white ball.

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Vladimir_Putting t1_iw7d12q wrote

Damn, I've never seen a white cricket ball. But I was certainly aware that test cricket and one day cricket existed. TIL.

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loadofcheese t1_iw7j4dt wrote

3 versions. This is T20

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ComadoreJackSparrow t1_iw7jfl7 wrote

T20 is a form of one day cricket chief.

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FrightenedTomato t1_iw7usuh wrote

One Day Cricket is broadly understood to be the 50 Over format.

Yeah a T20 game takes about 3.5 hours but that's not what "One Day" means in Cricket.

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loadofcheese t1_iw7jtvf wrote

One Day is 50 overs per side

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ComadoreJackSparrow t1_iw7k1hd wrote

Is a T20 match played and completed within one day?

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nothin_nonthing t1_iw7q7te wrote

Yes but that isn't what 'one day' refers to in terms of cricket. One day is the name of the format with 50 overs per side, hence the name ODI (One Day International). A term that includes both T20 and One day would be limited overs or white ball.

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Karma19065 t1_iwal3kc wrote

Yes..but 50 overs match takes like 7-8 hours to complete while T20 takes 3-4 hours

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bdzz t1_iw7deat wrote

In limited overs cricket (ODI which are 50 overs and T20 which are 20) they use white balls. This was introduced back in the 80s because they started playing matches into the nights (that was a new thing). White balls are more visible than the traditional red balls. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket_ball#Colour (regardless of the time though all limited overs cricket are played with white ball now)

In Test cricket they still use red balls. But rarely nowadays there are day/night Test matches too. For those matches they use pink balls. It's basically trying to gap between the two, giving visibility + deteriorating slower than a white ball.

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5m1tm t1_iw711fc wrote

Ben Stokes, what a player!

2019 WC

2019 Ashes

2022 T20 WC

He's been England's main man in big games with his temperament and impact. One of the biggest high impact players of this sport! England probably wouldn't have won those matches if it weren't for him. Also, what a redemption for him after the 2016 T20 WC debacle. He'd already become a legend of English cricket in 2019 itself, but he's further cemented his place there now! Players would yearn to be a hero for their team in such crunch situations, but Stokes has now done it thrice, and across all formats that too. Incredible mentality monster!

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iama_bad_person t1_iw7wgyj wrote

>2019 WC

Still salty about the boundary count back rule lmao

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5m1tm t1_iwgcxfl wrote

Yeah I mean I'm mad about it too lol, but it doesn't make England less of a WC winner (and I'm saying this as someone who hates the English and Aussie cricket teams lol). England were genuine WC winners because unfortunately that's how the rule was at that time, so no team should be blamed or undermined coz of it.

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Phyrodox t1_iw797o5 wrote

Without one of the summer's best batsman in Bairstow, too.

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tommypopz t1_iw7mbb0 wrote

And former world number 1 Malan, and ODI World Cup super over bowler Archer, and Topley and Wood injured…

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stockledger t1_iw6sj54 wrote

I am STOKED!!

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sk0711 t1_iw731ie wrote

We were all watching this game with a Pinch of SALT!

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matti-san t1_iw73q0e wrote

England - best at ODI, best at T20, best at Hundred™

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GamerA_S t1_iw6vo92 wrote

Ben stokes t20 world cup redemption for the 2016 finals

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Gaius_Octavius_ t1_iw7hfok wrote

Is this "real" World Cup (like the FIFA version for football) or is it a different tournament?

I don't know anything about cricket except there are a lot of different versions. Either way, very impressive.

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bdzz t1_iw7jbct wrote

Yes it's one of the real World Cups.

There are 3 main formats of the game and each has its own competition. There are 2 World Cups and a Championship. England now champion of the 2 World Cups, actually the first time in history when one team holds both cups at the same time

If you are curious:

50 overs World Cup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket_World_Cup

20 overs World Cup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICC_Men%27s_T20_World_Cup

Test Championship https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICC_World_Test_Championship (it's not a World Cup by name because not all countries can compete)

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kilgore_trout1 t1_iw7lebf wrote

There are three main types of international cricket: Test (5days), ODI (one day) & T20 (3-4 hours). There is a World Cup for all three formats, but as you can imagine test cricket World Cup isn’t this kind of format, and it’s played over a much longer period.

Both the ODI and T20 World Cups are considered proper world cups. This one is T20.

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Gaius_Octavius_ t1_iw7m1np wrote

Which version is the most popular? It makes sense it would be the shortest version; who has days to watch one match?

I am pretty sure Test is the original version right?

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kilgore_trout1 t1_iw7ng1m wrote

That’s a good question. Each format has a pretty good following. Test is considered the purest form of the game by your more traditional cricket fan. It’s very different from the short forms of the game, requiring different tactics and strategies. It’s actually fantastic, but I would probably recommend watching short form 1st to get into it, and you’re right that it’s a struggle to watch all 5 days without missing anything - being fair they don’t always go to the full 5, can be anywhere from three onwards. Normally people will tune in to whatever they can, checking the score for listening on the radio, or having on the tv in the background. (I’m personally looking forward to retiring so I can sit and watch test cricket all day every day lol)

There are a couple of t20 leagues around the world that are exceptionally popular, particularly the IPL in India, which I think apart from the Champions League and maybe the English Premier League is possibly the most watched sports league in the world. These are high stakes, high money leagues that attract the best players around the world to come and play for seasons that last just a few months.

One thing to note is that the players tend to play across all formats and leagues. So for example Ben Stokes, who hit England’s winning runs today in the T20 final, is England’s test cricket captain. And also a significant member of the ODI team. He also plays test cricket, and has played in the IPL and big bash league is it in Australia. This is not uncommon across all top players.

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IHeardOnAPodcast t1_iw7xix1 wrote

Stokes actually retired from ODI this summer, but had a great ODI career before he did! Know you were just demonstrating a point though!

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Martino231 t1_iw80102 wrote

In terms of viewership, T20 is the most popular format these days. Cricket purists tend to favor test cricket though, mainly just because it's the original format and requires certain skills which aren't as important in the shorter formats. But you can understand how a format which can last up to 5 days is a little less accessible to casual fans.

Test cricket is a game of patience where batsmen are encouraged to be very conservative and ensure that they protect their wicket (don't get out) even if it means scoring very slowly. In the shorter forms, batsmen are encouraged to be much more aggressive and prioritize their run rate.

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tobymurphy24 t1_ix0sq3w wrote

It's the minor world cup. The big one is the 50 over world cup, which is on next year

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EtuMeke t1_iw6tf5w wrote

They played brilliantly in both finals. I'm not a fan of the team but they know how to play white ball cricket. Kudos

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xzeoz t1_iw7wp1k wrote

They brought it home

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JKKIDD231 t1_iw7q91r wrote

What a win, Champs of both T20I and ODI formats

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sabre_rider t1_iw8cnf7 wrote

Pakistan pace attack gave it their all. Well done England but tough luck Pakistan. What a game!

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cskarthik123 t1_iw970k8 wrote

Well done, Stokes and Curran were the MVPs

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wolfpack1986 t1_iw75ou8 wrote

England doing the lord’s work.

  • a thankful Indian fan this morning
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filthydeference t1_iw7kcp4 wrote

weird how .. Indians will gladly take England over Pak..considering we were one country split by the Brits but are willing to hate Pak more. (I’m Indian..and was hoping for a Pak victory)

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wolfpack1986 t1_iw7lih6 wrote

I’m conflicted but from a non political, cricket only sense, Pakistan is undoubtedly our main rival. Them not winning a World Cup is a win for us.

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Mahameghabahana t1_iw7zdxf wrote

4 wars, terrorist attacks, claims on our lands and being a enemy isn't enough i guess. Sorry but i rather support who are allies, i am not masochist enough to support an enemy. Now bhaichara crowd can downvote me.

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nas360 t1_iw87up0 wrote

Kashmir is not your land..You refuse to let the Kashmiris decide through the UN plebiscite.

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Extension_Ad6338 t1_iw8oolh wrote

>Kashmir is not your land.

Kashmir is not your land either

>You refuse to let the Kashmiris decide through the UN plebiscite.

Why should we hold a plebiscite on a land that belongs to us and not even populated by native Kashmiris? Besides if a plebiscite were to be held it will held in Azad Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan as well.

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nas360 t1_iwb34hm wrote

I can gaurantee you that is a plebiscite was held in both the areas you mention, they will stay with Pakistan. The reason is quite obvious to most people. They are populated by muslims and they have seen the treatment muslims get in India.

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Extension_Ad6338 t1_iwclolh wrote

>The reason is quite obvious to most people.

Yeah it's quite obvious they'll stay with your country given that you've cleansed the 2 regions of Hindu Baltis/Mirpuris and filled them up with Muslim Punjabis/Pashtuns.

>they have seen the treatment muslims get in India.

Don't worry, Jammu/Kashmiri Hindus have seen the treatment Hindus get in Pakistan as well.

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nas360 t1_iwcuait wrote

Prove it that hindus were killed or oppressed? The truth is that most hindus left during partition. There were never that many Hindus in Kashmir to begin with.

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downtimeredditor t1_iw7tffc wrote

Wonder when the English media will hype it as some weird historic mark. It's gonna happen

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Thatchers-Gold t1_iw8kcyn wrote

This is the first time a team has held both the ODI and T20 world cups, cementing this team as undoubtedly the best in the world. The CWC is apparently the third most watched sporting event in the world so why would it be weird or hype?

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la508 t1_iw8ptfd wrote

Don't worry, they're just a clueless seppo

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Ramblingbunny t1_iw7wqqi wrote

Pakistan didn’t play their best game

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Human-Perception5400 t1_iw8f3cf wrote

Their bowling was insane, would have been lot more closer if shaheen had finished his spell

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ZEFfersonZ t1_iw7wjjz wrote

How’s that Brexit working out while you drool over cricket?

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kilgore_trout1 t1_iw7yxsd wrote

What on earth have either Brexit or soccer got to do with this post?

Edit: lol nice ninja edit OP! Still the question remains what has Brexit got to do with this post?

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Guptarakesh69 t1_iw8ca4l wrote

Mfs what does football have to with this and brexit, do you live here in the UK?

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Guptarakesh69 t1_iw7xjb9 wrote

What's a real sports then to you ? Chess? Snake and ladders ? Esports?

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swagzzuu t1_iw6vvtn wrote

Bullies of world cricket

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mynewaltaccount1 t1_iw6x15p wrote

*of short format world cricket

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P-Diddle356 t1_iw6z4ck wrote

*cricket baz ball is a cheat code

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mynewaltaccount1 t1_iw724h8 wrote

Might want to check the Test rankings lol

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konhaybay t1_iw6zkwn wrote

Of shorter form of short form cricket.

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mynewaltaccount1 t1_iw721p4 wrote

They are also ODI champs, so I'll begrudgingly give them short form as a whole

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Patchipoo t1_iw71dr7 wrote

Is that the game where you push a wooden ball under little metal arcs with a big wood hammer ?

I used to play it as a kid, it was pretty fun, we had plastic hammers though to make it less dangerous.

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Guptarakesh69 t1_iw7ctc2 wrote

Nah its where you play with the ball in your hands and and touch the ground to score a point. It's called football , but we are just so confused and our braincells don't work due to our high fat lack of vitamin diet so we don't really know what the sport is suppose to be so we play we ours hands instead.

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Patchipoo t1_iw8y0xe wrote

I though that one was called rugby ?

I think you are mistaking with the one called soccer, then again I'm not too sure about the rules, I think only 1 player is allowed to touch the ball with their hands. The braincell part is on point though.

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Thatchers-Gold t1_iw8ktcj wrote

Nah it’s the third most watched sporting event in the world

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SnooRobots6923 t1_iwb2jsi wrote

The question needs to be asked now: How tf is tour de France more watched than fifa wc?

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Thatchers-Gold t1_iwbj8ke wrote

Yeah that one got me, too! I checked a couple of sites (who knows if either have it right) and that seemed to be the theme. I mean everyone knows what it is and even though I’m not personally interested it always ends up on the tv.

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Patchipoo t1_iw8x2af wrote

Guess my country wasn't "civilized" by British colons to make it a revelant sport.

But if playing against yourselfs and calling it a worldcup is what makes you guys happy, who I my to say overwise ;)

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LiveLaughLoath t1_iw91x62 wrote

Playing against Pakistan is playing against ourselves? It's probably the most widely played sport across the world after football.

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Patchipoo t1_iwb1a1v wrote

Well, if the right to play wasn't locked behind being part of the commonwealth until 1970 maybe the sport would have a better presence on the international scene. And yes, pakistan was a part of the British empire. India counts for more then half of the total of cricket fans in the world, so yeah outside the old British empire, no one knows it.

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LiveLaughLoath t1_iwb49od wrote

Okay, strange that the Netherlands also competed in the world cup then if apparently no one knows of it there but regardless, what does it matter if it's most widely known amongst previous members of the British Empire? That's still a significant portion of the world, enough to make it the second most popular sport after football. It's nice to share a love of a sport and compete with countries that don't play football as much.

I think you've gotten confused with the common criticism of America calling their baseball tournament "the world series" when in that case literally no where but America and Japan play it seriously. That criticism doesn't apply to cricket because it's so widespread globally.

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Guptarakesh69 t1_iwb0oxn wrote

Playing football by yourself is pretty sad maybe y'all should try make other nations try it they might start playing it so you don't feel so alone anymore 😄

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Patchipoo t1_iwbgt68 wrote

That would mean potentially letting other countries win though, I doubt Americans would want that.

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Guptarakesh69 t1_iwbhu77 wrote

Fair enough or maybe they just might not wanna play the game

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