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Iron_Maniac t1_iw1x5ht wrote

And what a game it was! To put it into perspective England won their last 30 games in a row and were the major favourites going into the tournament and also the final.

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crashbandicoochy t1_iw1y8z5 wrote

And then to add to this; the Black Ferns were absolutely in the dumps. They completely overhauled their coaching setup in the lead up to this tournament because they looked as bad as they've ever looked to end last year. England embarrassed the Ferns and now we're here.

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phonetune t1_iw3qtq5 wrote

Yeah - although the result was almost certainly a result of the deserved red card

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hbab712 t1_iw4c946 wrote

The tackling is getting really bad. They all want to poach the ball and then refuse to get low. I'm seeing at least a concussion or HIA in basically every game I watch.

It's happening at the lower levels, too. I'm a ref and I call multiple high tackles per game because no one wants to go low anymore.

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Thneed1 t1_iw3ro8u wrote

And then England ended up a yard away, but couldn’t get it in.

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Jlx_27 t1_iw384lf wrote

They were the favorite team alright, The Black Ferns held on and made it count!

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brett1081 t1_iw3u3ym wrote

Playing down a woman the majority of the game hurts one’s chances. Had it been even sides I don’t think it’s close.

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carson63000 t1_iw4u9da wrote

Not sure why the downvotes. I’m a Black Ferns fan and I freely admit that I don’t think they could have beaten England if it was 15 vs. 15 for the full game.

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MiracleJnr1 t1_iw2ukfb wrote

England played with 14 tho, compared to Nz 15

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davo_nz t1_iw2v50t wrote

Yeah because the player illegally took out arguably New Zealands best player who couldn't continue. Deserved red.

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Halfcaste_brown t1_iw3f0vr wrote

Girls? Their forwards are frickin mini steam rollers.

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MiracleJnr1 t1_iw3fy0p wrote

Ill change it to women. Is that why im getting downvoted? Not sure

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Halfcaste_brown t1_iw3mpgr wrote

Lol no, i suspect your downvotes are because it seems you're suggesting that England only lost and NZ only won because England were down a player. But um can we all just agree that there is no possible way to know what the outcome would have been with a full team.

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MiracleJnr1 t1_iw3nban wrote

Well it definitely gives a big advantage to Nz, but yes its impossible to know if england would have won even with 15 players.

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Halfcaste_brown t1_iw3pozh wrote

An advantage yes.

And think about it, if we start attributing the win/loss to the fact that England only had 14 players, then you end up heaping the blame for the loss squarely on the red-carded player, and thats not fair.

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brett1081 t1_iw3udvq wrote

NZ was done 14-0 and getting crushed when it happened. They absolutely were not going to be in it.

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Halfcaste_brown t1_iw4tn81 wrote

Lol how on earth do you know that though? So you would blame England's loss on that one red-carded sheila? Rude.

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