cr1zzl t1_iw1wta1 wrote
“It’s not women’s rugby, it’s RUGBY”.
Such a great game to watch. And I’m not even a huge rugby fan.
hbab712 t1_iw4cnic wrote
Nah, it's women's rugby. That's not to take anything away from these women, but the sport is very different between men and women.
cr1zzl t1_iw4drcg wrote
It’s not “men’s rugby” though, is it?
hbab712 t1_iw4jgte wrote
Short answer: no. The vernacular for mens rugby is just "rugby." The language hasn't evolved beyond that at this point. It's kind of an "it is what it is" thing right now.
You can dislike the gendered language as it's not particularly inclusive, but if you watch much rugby you will see that they are effectively different sports. It's like tennis. Even Serena Williams said very clearly that mens and womens tennis are different sports due to the physiological differences between men and women in sports where strength is required.
BTW: I'm not advocating for anything with respect to what language we use. It just is how we refer to the sports at this point.
Edit: to expand a little, should we call 7s just "rugby" or should we differentiate because it's so different than traditional rugby union? What about rugby league? 10s? Etc. Is Ruby Tui wrong for referring to her sport as "womens rugby"?
DrunkenPangolin t1_iw5lcvp wrote
I don't think "men's rugby", as you call it, is gendered. I think it's open to all.
wism95 t1_iw4jral wrote
The biggest and best version of something tends to just be called that thing with no qualifiers. Like "the world cup" refers to the mens football world cup unless otherwise specified
cr1zzl t1_iw4wjnj wrote
You’re basically making my point for me though. It isn’t inherently the best. Especially here in NZ at the moment
wism95 t1_iw4xkha wrote
Obviously it is the best and the fact that the men's team came 3rd after winning the last two hardly proves much
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