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getyourrealfakedoors t1_ivgelpr wrote

Reply to comment by Kn0where009 in Messi and Ronaldo look set for final shot at World Cup glory by 29PiecesOfSilver

Because due to a long string of corruption, it’s in Qatar, where it will be played in stadiums built with slave labor

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CaptainOktoberfest t1_ivgjjx9 wrote

Slave labor where close to 10,000 slaves died. Qatar would work them to death in the heat and without safety devices.

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HowBen t1_ivgsvf2 wrote

That number is inaccurate, by a lot. But you're right about the conditions

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236766 t1_ivguu5g wrote

Do you have a more accurate number? Are you saying higher or lower? Appreciate the info!

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HowBen t1_ivgx5yr wrote

I think 10000 or other similar figures are probably extrapolations of the 6500 figure that the guardian reported, which is the count of all South-Asian* migrant deaths between 2011 and 2020.

That's still a pretty iffy number to use as a measure of deaths due to WC related exploitation, since it includes migrants from any occupation as well as death from any cause. In a country where South-Asian immigrants make up something like 30-40% of the population of 290000 people, 6500 deaths over a 10 year period doesnt sound that bad.

According the article i linked, the embassies of the origin countries only attribute a small percentage of those deaths to workplace accidents. Most are attributed to "natural causes", and this is where the article and other sources raise contentions since the data standards arent always that great.

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atjones111 t1_ivgvd4l wrote

Yea because it wasn’t hosted in Russia Brazil South Africa the past 3 years all countries with questionable actions

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getyourrealfakedoors t1_ivh975i wrote

You’re just further pointing out FIFA’s corruption

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atjones111 t1_ivhaztx wrote

Well yea fifas corrupt but so are/were the countries

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getyourrealfakedoors t1_ivhcu2g wrote

Sure, but Qatar is taking it to an atrocious level

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atjones111 t1_ivhfz8a wrote

Russia was butchering people in a foreign country as they hosted a World Cup Qatar is honestly the least problem some host, tbh I’m not saying you are but in general I feel like the outrage just stems from islamaphobia again not saying you you are by any means, I just feel like Qatar has done the least troublesome things compared to all previous hosts

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getyourrealfakedoors t1_ivhgfc7 wrote

True, I’m against migrant workers having their passports stolen and being forced to build billions of dollars worth of stadiums in appalling conditions in a barely inhabitable desert to line the pockets of blood oil tycoons because I hate Muslims, you got me

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atjones111 t1_ivhjfq3 wrote

I literally didn’t say that and I agree with you, im just talking about the overall outrage I literally said I do not think you are part of that group

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Kn0where009 t1_ivgg7bi wrote

I see, didn’t know where it was being held this time around. Thanks for the info!

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