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Korvun t1_islzuv7 wrote
Reply to comment by twombles21 in Dodgers vs. Padres score: Padres win in dramatic Game 4, eliminate Dodgers by YnwaMquc2k19
I've been a Padres fan since I was 6. I've been to quite number of games and while I've seen some shitty fan behavior on occasion, I've never seen what you're describing to a "quiet barely cheering" opposing fan. Your story reads like, "I've never done anything wrong in my life" and I don't believe you've told the whole story.
twombles21 t1_ismc7oq wrote
“I’ve never seen it so it must not exist!”
Well, you’ve never met me and my wife. We are quiet people who are just there to enjoy the game. If my wife had 5 bucks for everytime someone told her she is too quiet and “you need to talk more”, I’d be a trophy husband.
Korvun t1_ismkja6 wrote
I didn't say it doesn't exist, and I didn't say this event didn't happen. I just don't believe your, "I was just standing there" story. We're to believe that this belligerent fan just verbally assaulted your wife because you "quietly cheered" when your team scored? Come on now.
twombles21 t1_ismlz8w wrote
No, I didn’t specify anything about context. We were walking back to our seats from getting one of those ice cream cookie sandwiches near the Rocket League booth and this guy and his friend were walking in the opposite direction past us. The guy closest to us saw my wife’s sweatshirt and that’s when he said it.
Korvun t1_isod4sx wrote
That's even less plausible. This entire exchange happened in passing because he saw her sweatshirt? Not even "quietly cheering" now? Just happened by with an ice cream cookie and he's like, "Hey, cunt! You've got shit on your sweater!"?
twombles21 t1_isoq2tk wrote
*sweatshirt
You’d have to find that guy and ask him why he decided to be an asshole for no reason, but that is what happened.
By your standards, the Knockout Game has to be made up because it doesn’t make sense that someone would try and knock someone else out cold without a reason, right?!
Believe whatever you want. It happened.
Korvun t1_isp4tbp wrote
You keep trying to apply some weird logic to other scenarios when in reality it's just your story that isn't believable. Is it possible? Sure, but you're saying every Padres fan is a piece of shit and I hope their team loses because of one very likely made-up incident.
twombles21 t1_isp906c wrote
Nowhere did I say EVERY Padres fan is a piece of shit. Your own bias convinced you that I did and you proceeded under that delusion without actually thoroughly reading what I said.
If you looked at one of my other comments to another redditor, you will see that I said, and I quote:
“Yea, I know. It was just extremely frustrating for us. My wife has a history of getting verbally abused by people for doing literally nothing to warrant it. People see that she is short, petite and quiet and they take advantage of it.
I know all Padres fans aren’t bad and every team has their bad apples and bandwagon fans. My recently deceased grandfather was a diehard Padres fan and he was a great man. Doesn’t make the abuse easier to stomach though.”
Korvun t1_ispuvuz wrote
Why would I read a different conversation to get more context for THIS conversation? Especially when the additional context you've given ALSO sounds like bullshit? She does LITERALLY NOTHING, but is constantly randomly verbally accosted? Give me a break, man.
If you leave your house and run into an asshole, you've run into an asshole. If you leave your house and everyone you run into is an asshole, YOU'RE the asshole.
And you may not have outright said all fans, but you sure want to punish all Padres fans because "the ones you encountered" that day were assholes. Now, if a person wanted to levy a punishment to an entire group of people for the bad behavior of a few, what would that make the guy wanting to punish everyone?
twombles21 t1_isq4f99 wrote
You stated that I said all Padres fans are a piece of shit . I was providing proof that your statement was untrue and pointing you to evidence of that.
Stop saying I’ve said things that I haven’t. You are using hyperbole to try and make it seem like I’m purposefully making unrealistic and exaggerated claims.
I did not say my wife is constantly verbally abused. Merely that she has been verbally abused on more occasions than the average person because she’s small and quiet.
I only said I hope the Padres lose and mostly because I was angry about how we were treated by more than one isolated Padres fan. Now, notice I said more than one. Not many, not most, not all. What I said will have zero effect on how the Padres actually perform. I’m not doing anything to punish anyone.
Perhaps instead of getting all defensive, you should have gone with something like “Don’t lump all Padres fans together. We aren’t all bad!” unless you were just looking for a reason to argue.
Korvun t1_isqieqq wrote
>Stop saying I’ve said things that I haven’t. You are using hyperbole to try and make it seem like I’m purposefully making unrealistic and exaggerated claims.
I used your own ridiculous story to make your story sound unrealistic, no hyperbole needed.
>I did not say my wife is constantly verbally abused. Merely that she has been verbally abused on more occasions than the average person because she’s small and quiet.
You're splitting hairs. You said she has a history of it, now you're saying it's more common than the average person. You can argue with my use of constant if you like, but the point is the same. You're full of it.
>Perhaps instead of getting all defensive, you should have gone with something like “Don’t lump all Padres fans together. We aren’t all bad!” unless you were just looking for a reason to argue.
Your idea for not being defensive is to say something defensive? I'd rather just keep calling your BS stories what they are, BS.
twombles21 t1_isqrda8 wrote
“I used your own ridiculous story to make your story sound unrealistic, no hyperbole needed.”
Your use of constant to change the narrative to better suit your agenda says otherwise.
“You said she has a history of it, now you're saying it's more common than the average person..”
You act like those two statements are opposing ideas and can’t possibly both be true simultaneously.
As I said before, you can believe what you want. My story is true whether you believe it or not. Unless you work at Petco Park as security and have access to security camera footage with audio, nothing you can say will change that.
Korvun t1_isr3nk3 wrote
>You act like those two statements are opposing ideas and can’t possibly both be true simultaneously
Actually, I used those two statements to make the point I did. That you're implying consistency.
>As I said before, you can believe what you want. My story is true whether you believe it or not.
You see, now I said at the beginning that your story is plausible, but that you've chosen to omit key elements in the story, like your part in it. Given that you've instead chosen to say, "nuh uh, we're as innocent as the driven snow" instead, I'll just stick to my original conclusion. Have a blessed day.
twombles21 t1_isr9spa wrote
Your error is assuming that there were key elements that were omitted without even having the ability to prove that is the case, not to mention having zero knowledge about the person who said it. Yeah, I’m the one who is full of it. 🙄
“Have a blessed day”. Oh, that explains so much about you. Thanks for that.
Korvun t1_isrhqpa wrote
Oh, no, I didn't make an error. Your many bullshit stories have proven that much to be true.
It says something about me? I wonder what that could be. It would be funny to hear what assumptions you've made about me given that statement you just made about how it's an error to do so.
Edit: So brave
twombles21 t1_isrnzeq wrote
You can keep saying my “story is bullshit” but it’s not going to make that statement true.
So you want to complain about people making assumptions now? You can’t even see that your entire argument is based on an assumption and incorrect one at that.
You are not worth talking to. Enjoy the block shit bird.
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