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Curse3242 t1_jeb6v66 wrote

Well you can say whatever you want, but the ownership in football is absolutely a joke right now

Regardless of how it has affected football, I see people, even life long fans of their clubs begging for Saudi owners

It's disgusting honestly

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BigLan2 t1_jebizq6 wrote

The 180 Newcastle fans did when they were bought was impressive. ManU fans going through the same thing now as well. If the option is "competing for top 6 and hating the owners" or "competing for top 2 and hating the owners", it's a fairly easy choice to just turn a blind eye.

And let's be realistic, you need a big-money owner to consistently challenge for the title in England. Chelsea and City (and now Newcastle) changed the landscape so much.

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Curse3242 t1_jeda2eg wrote

I know a life long Inter fan, like this guy knows football history, knows everything, he's sorta like a ultra, but I was in utter shock when he was begging to be bought by Saudis.

But look at Brighton, or Liverpool (don't spend much) or West Ham last season, Arsenal this season. I shouldn't be saying this even as a Barca fan, but to some extent even Barca with Pedri/Gavi/Araujo. These weren't expensive signings.

I still feel talent can overshadow money. Its just that how modern football is with the schedules and the new rules that you need money.

Schedules need fixing and 3 subs only need to be brought back

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BigLan2 t1_jedbarg wrote

And look at west ham this season. You can get lucky with a decent squad, but without billionaires behind a team you won't be there every season, which, since Liverpool in the 70s/80s and Man Utd in the 90s/00s is what fans want. Best case you get your squad together in a year the big clubs are rebuilding and end up pulling a Leicester, though they're now back in a relegation fight.

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Curse3242 t1_jedc7u5 wrote

I don't think being there every season is the point tho. I don't strive for that for my club

It's about good football to me and achieving a better result than last season

For sure, without billionaires teams cannot convert their fortunes in a few years. But it can happen in a span of a decade or something. It definitely can happen. We get suprise winners a lot these days

But the new rules are still a problem. Idk I personally feel if things can be fair for every club. Money won't affect football that much.

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LuesDE t1_jeeiapw wrote

United make more than enough money to sustain themselves. They don’t need any wealthy owners.

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Z0idberg_MD t1_jecr3e9 wrote

The crazy thing is the quintessential oil money club, PSG, can’t even when the fucking champions league having three of the absolute best players in the world in their front line. If anything I would argue it leads to a prima donna model where players feel they can breeze through.

Every time PSG burns out I click my heels

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Curse3242 t1_jedanzx wrote

This is my take on it

If FIFA fix the schedule, bring 3 Subs only back and fix some other rules.... Money genuinely doesn't affect football that much. It affects it, but not to THAT degree

Liverpool didn't need expensive signings to win UCL, Arsenal this season, even clubs like Brighton or West Ham

You don't need expensive signings

Real Madrid is sorta the only club where money seems to affect how they play. But that's always been their DNA, hate the club but respect how they make a system out of picking random stars from everywhere

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bl4ckhunter t1_jecne3b wrote

It's disgusting but not really unexpected, football "fan clubs" have always been barely a step away from organized crime groups and most of the fans never really had a problem with that, saudi despots aren't that big of a jump in quality.

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