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omega__man t1_jdasee6 wrote

Holy shit, and I thought Reimer’s excuse was as bad as it could get.

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shyguysam t1_jdc0zov wrote

What safety ? Will the pride jersey be contagious with the gay and they'll get infected against their will ?

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MarcusXL t1_jdc1oin wrote

Wow, they're total cowards.

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malodyets1 t1_jdcknby wrote

Ah yes, Russia's #1 problem right now: hockey players wearing rainbow numbers.

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Kroniic t1_jdcn0ja wrote

No you missed the point. The jerseys are stupid. They don’t wear black history month jerseys, or women’s history month jerseys. Seriously, it’s hockey, just keep it that way. They don’t need to show “fake” support for a community by wearing rainbow jerseys if they don’t want to. Freedom of speech, you shouldn’t be ridiculed for not wearing a rainbow practice Jersey if you don’t want to. Literally who cares, just move on

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fordfocusstd t1_jdcti2e wrote

Just go with the religious angle, at least I understand that. The last thing I have sympathy for is Russian born hockey players.

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Craico13 t1_jdcts2m wrote

…because they’re pussies who are bowing to the Russians..?

When did Conservatives start loving Russia and Putin? They used to hate them for being “commies”.

What happened to that?

^Answer: ^Fox ^News, ^OAN, ^Trump, ^Rupert ^Murdoch, ^brainwashing.

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IrvinStabbedMe t1_jdcwgiz wrote

That is different than simply just being born in Russia. Look at what you wrote and see how asinine it is. You should have expressed your displeasure for Russian sympathizers or those that still hold allegiance to the country; Not simply Russian Born Hockey players.

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Auran82 t1_jdcwp53 wrote

I really don’t understand how people get so bent out of shape about wearing something with a rainbow on it to show some support. It’s just a gesture. It’d be like refusing to wear a black armband because you didn’t personally know the person who died.

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ElwoodJD t1_jdcwx53 wrote

Cite “lack of backbone”

Fixed that headline

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axegashington t1_jdcy7jf wrote

Nothing says fucking pussy more than a bunch of dudes so insecure they won't wear bright colors. Get fucked Hawks. Fuckin Kaner would've done it.

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Craico13 t1_jdd1bms wrote

> …you’re grasping for straws thinking this has anything to do with Russia lmao. - Skimfest1

> Right, it’s the concern for the family members of Russian players that live in Russia. This has nothing to do with kowtowing for the Russian government like the NBA does for China. - Skimfest1

> Per Pope, as well as Mark Lazerus of The Athletic, the decision comes from the organization itself, rather than the players, and is primarily related to “safety concerns over Russia's anti-LGBTQ propaganda law.” - the article that this thread is about.

Tell me how they aren’t bowing to the Russians again…

Edit: I accidentally deleted my previous comment that called you out for not reading the article lmao oops

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stellahella1 t1_jddd4t9 wrote

So the whole fucking team won't wear them not just the Russians? What bullshit and they know it. Shame shame

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zimzyma t1_jddgor5 wrote

I thought hockey players were tough

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finnjakefionnacake t1_jddhhk1 wrote

look, i agree that no one should be forced to wear something they don't want to wear (although many people have to wear things like uniforms for their jobs, but you know what i mean). but when we are in a world in which people are trying to legislate trans people out of existence, attacking drag for no reason, and the most recent GOP party platform still is against gay marriage or gay people being able to adopt, then being vocal and open in your show of support really is a powerful thing.

That aside -- I'm sure your daughter does not expect you to do any of that, and I wouldn't expect my parents to either, but I'm sure she wouldn't be upset to see you do so.

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NiceCrispyMusic t1_jddhpdr wrote

>some people just don’t want to do it. That should be enough of an answer.

That’s true when it comes to the players’ personal lives but not when they’re suiting up for their job.

Like, a player is getting paid by the org to rep what the org reps.

If the team wants to put a “wish.com” patch on your jersey after you signed a 4 year 50M dollar deal, you gotta wear the jersey and the patch. If a player doesn’t like the design of the New Jerseys, it doesn’t matter that they “don’t like it”. Still gotta wear it. …PERIOD.

This isn’t any different.

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Rishkoi t1_jddoe67 wrote

Stop trying to make people wear rainbows if they don't want to?

If its really so important, make it part of the actual teams jersey

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NiceCrispyMusic t1_jddq19q wrote

Irrelevant evidence? …the guy I responded to says it should be enough if a player doesn’t WANT to wear something.

I cited evidence that proves time and time again that a players desires with regards to what’s on their jersey hasn’t been a valid enough reason for them to not wear their team’s jersey therfore a rainbowed number isn’t any different.

It seems like you simply have poor reading comprehension or just want to argue.

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bobob9b9b9n t1_jddqkud wrote

They don't give a fuck about a jersey they might give a fuck if they came out and said this war is horrible stop it and a tennis player has already done that guess what? He's not dead. If you think they are going to waste their time assassinating some hockey player who wore a jersey you are a moron.

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poker445 t1_jddqnth wrote

👍 fuckin a good day to be a hawks fan

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bobob9b9b9n t1_jddslsx wrote

They are not at risk from wearing a jersey there is no Kremlin statement saying any nhl player following western gay propaganda will be executed the only thing they even begin to care about is open opposition to their war or their government.

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mdr1974 t1_jddv8y5 wrote

So... let the Russian players abstain from wearing them then.

Some teams are wearing them but allowing players to choose not to. Correct?

I am unaware of any teams that are forcing everybody to wear them (please correct me if I'm wrong). I would assume the players union would step in if a team even tried that.

Yet teams are comfortable with the blanket "nobody is wearing them" decision.

Disappointing. If players should be given the choice not to wear them, they should be given the choice TO wear them as well.

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bobob9b9b9n t1_jddvb1g wrote

They are not going to kill their family either they're not north Korea yet. Do you realize how much international news that would cause nhl players family killed for response to wearing a jersey do you realize how much that would piss off international Russians. All they have is the ablity to care about is "anti war" "propaganda" in Russia. Also a tennis player visibly came out in defense of no war and guess what his family is fine.

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funandgames12 t1_jde49r6 wrote

Much better than I’m so concerned about my virtue signaling that I would rather some family in Russia have to run away, get hurt or worse just so I can get those feels. All for a meaningless label on a meaningless hockey jersey at a meaningless NHL game.

That’s disgusting….and it just shows the mentality of certain types of people if you fail to fall in line with their ideology.

But that’s a discussion better saved for the political subs, not in sports. Blocked.

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__Dave_ t1_jdebujo wrote

That isn’t really a comparable situation. You’re talking about a personal relationship. You have many (more important) ways of supporting your daughter that don’t involve signs and pins, etc.

Additionally, there’s a huge difference between not actively doing something and refusing to do it when asked. Like you said, there is no expectation or demand for you to do those things, obviously there are more important things, but if she asked would you honestly refuse such a simple gesture? Would she be satisfied with “I just don’t want to”?

As for players’ reasons. Sure we might not be entitled to it, but like it or not they’re public figures and people are going to ask. It comes with the gig and their sizeable paycheque.

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jwong728 t1_jdejdhq wrote

>Freedom of speech, you shouldn’t be ridiculed for not wearing a rainbow practice Jersey if you don’t want to.

I really don't think you understand what Freedom of Speech is. Even when you ignore the part about being a government to individual thing. Freedom of Speech does not mean you can't be ridiculed or criticized. In fact that's literally the point of Freedom of Speech, it is your right that you can choose to wear or not wear something while it is mine right to ridicule you.

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BigJohn_78 t1_jdem5fb wrote

But they still will wear the jerseys with the racist logo

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Onekone t1_jdgeny9 wrote

If it's as simple thing as wearing a shirt, then it's just as simple not to wear it.

People who have issues are ones that demand the shirt to be worn, not ones that refuse

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