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Auran82 t1_jdcwp53 wrote

I really don’t understand how people get so bent out of shape about wearing something with a rainbow on it to show some support. It’s just a gesture. It’d be like refusing to wear a black armband because you didn’t personally know the person who died.

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[deleted] t1_jddfwv5 wrote

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__Dave_ t1_jdebujo wrote

That isn’t really a comparable situation. You’re talking about a personal relationship. You have many (more important) ways of supporting your daughter that don’t involve signs and pins, etc.

Additionally, there’s a huge difference between not actively doing something and refusing to do it when asked. Like you said, there is no expectation or demand for you to do those things, obviously there are more important things, but if she asked would you honestly refuse such a simple gesture? Would she be satisfied with “I just don’t want to”?

As for players’ reasons. Sure we might not be entitled to it, but like it or not they’re public figures and people are going to ask. It comes with the gig and their sizeable paycheque.

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NiceCrispyMusic t1_jddhpdr wrote

>some people just don’t want to do it. That should be enough of an answer.

That’s true when it comes to the players’ personal lives but not when they’re suiting up for their job.

Like, a player is getting paid by the org to rep what the org reps.

If the team wants to put a “wish.com” patch on your jersey after you signed a 4 year 50M dollar deal, you gotta wear the jersey and the patch. If a player doesn’t like the design of the New Jerseys, it doesn’t matter that they “don’t like it”. Still gotta wear it. …PERIOD.

This isn’t any different.

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duguy5 t1_jddk6sl wrote

The team is the one that is saying the players don’t have to wear it in this case though…

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NiceCrispyMusic t1_jddkp2y wrote

Yes, Im speaking mostly generally about instances of players having to wear things they don’t support on their jerseys and how I beleive the blackhawks should have handled it

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duguy5 t1_jddoman wrote

So you gave your opinion and backed it up with irrelevant evidence

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NiceCrispyMusic t1_jddq19q wrote

Irrelevant evidence? …the guy I responded to says it should be enough if a player doesn’t WANT to wear something.

I cited evidence that proves time and time again that a players desires with regards to what’s on their jersey hasn’t been a valid enough reason for them to not wear their team’s jersey therfore a rainbowed number isn’t any different.

It seems like you simply have poor reading comprehension or just want to argue.

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finnjakefionnacake t1_jddhhk1 wrote

look, i agree that no one should be forced to wear something they don't want to wear (although many people have to wear things like uniforms for their jobs, but you know what i mean). but when we are in a world in which people are trying to legislate trans people out of existence, attacking drag for no reason, and the most recent GOP party platform still is against gay marriage or gay people being able to adopt, then being vocal and open in your show of support really is a powerful thing.

That aside -- I'm sure your daughter does not expect you to do any of that, and I wouldn't expect my parents to either, but I'm sure she wouldn't be upset to see you do so.

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finnjakefionnacake t1_jddqeg3 wrote

I'm speaking more to the general sense that the commenter I replied to was talking about, not in regards to Russia.

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captaincumsock69 t1_jddax40 wrote

My understanding is that the Russian players don’t want to wear it at least partially for fear of the Russian government

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LeaderBrandonBurner t1_jddfqdd wrote

Yup, if I had to choose between wearing a rainbow jersey at the risk of my families well-being, I wouldn’t wear it either. People in the comments don’t realize how good we have it compared to so many other countries.

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bobob9b9b9n t1_jddslsx wrote

They are not at risk from wearing a jersey there is no Kremlin statement saying any nhl player following western gay propaganda will be executed the only thing they even begin to care about is open opposition to their war or their government.

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captaincumsock69 t1_jddt9rd wrote

The kremlin absolutely has an agenda against the lgbtq+ community. I don’t even think that is debatable.

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bobob9b9b9n t1_jddu15q wrote

Lol I know if you think they are going to go to America to kill a hockey player for a jersey you are nuts

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captaincumsock69 t1_jddu792 wrote

Presumably they have family and stuff who live in Russia and are Russian citizens. You’re literally having an argument with yourself. I never said they are going to kill them in America lol

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bobob9b9b9n t1_jddvb1g wrote

They are not going to kill their family either they're not north Korea yet. Do you realize how much international news that would cause nhl players family killed for response to wearing a jersey do you realize how much that would piss off international Russians. All they have is the ablity to care about is "anti war" "propaganda" in Russia. Also a tennis player visibly came out in defense of no war and guess what his family is fine.

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captaincumsock69 t1_jddw3eo wrote

Youre literally having an argument about things I did not say lol. Have fun

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bobob9b9b9n t1_jddwtw5 wrote

I literally showed you a famous Russian against the war with a living family in russia which was your point but go off moron.

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Onekone t1_jdgeny9 wrote

If it's as simple thing as wearing a shirt, then it's just as simple not to wear it.

People who have issues are ones that demand the shirt to be worn, not ones that refuse

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