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reeveb t1_jboxyu2 wrote

Is this “stand your ground” ? I didn’t know you could just shoot back in public. I’m surprised it doesn’t happen more often if so.

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Brewcrew828 t1_jbpdgr1 wrote

What? What kind of state do you live in where if someone is shooting at you that you can't defend yourself? I think you're on crack or something

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Chas_Tenenbaums_Sock t1_jbpi6cq wrote

Not exactly what u/reeveb was asking, but to note, when I had a concealed license in a stand your ground state, you could not specifically arm yourself to seek out a situation where you'd be potentially drawing your firearm. So the neighbor that's playing loud music? You couldn't go grab your pistol from the closet, leave your apartment, head up to the neighbor's and confront them. Which is (slightly) different if you armed, park your car, walking to your condo, and tell someone to please leave your porch (your property), they threaten you, and you draw your firearm.

All situations are different and there's a lot of nuance sometimes, but this wouldn't be the typical cut and dry scenario of defending yourself at the specific time you are armed IF Kemp had to go get his firearm THEN find the perpetrator.

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reeveb t1_jbq55v9 wrote

Honest question…and no, I have not tried crack sir.

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DeadFyre t1_jbq2o7s wrote

You have the right to defend yourself with "reasonable force" if you're attacked, so long as you have a legal right to be where you are. If you're shot at while trespassing and shoot back, the law won't protect you, but if you're driving your car on a public street? You completely have a right to fire back. Now, let's be clear, that's not an ideal circumstance, and may not even be tactically sound, he might have been better off just stomping on the gas and roaring down the street.

Reasonable force is going to depend on what the prosecutor, judge, and jury decide. This is why you're entitled to a trial by a jury of your peers. Now I'll disclaim here: Not a lawyer, don't know the law in Washington State, but shooting back is not inherently illegal.

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dj9008 t1_jbpgcjy wrote

It isn’t called “stand your ground” everywhere but most states say that “people have no duty to retreat before using deadly force in self-defense.”

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