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HorizonZeroFucks t1_ja9asm2 wrote

Reply to comment by stench_montana in Tottenham fan arrested after homophobic ‘rent boy’ chant plagues Chelsea match by rejs7

It isn't at all. It continually allows repulsive hate groups like the KKK operate.

The reason people are charged for hate crimes in the UK is because hatred like that can lead to violence against minority groups. Because other morons join in and it festers and grows and then one day, someone gets hurt, or dies, or both.

And arresting people and showing them there are consequences to hate speech, is the best way to deal with it.

America has so many hate groups that continually visit damage on others, because no one will take responsibility. The "muh freedumb" crowd just carry on whilst people get hurt.

People are still, even today, terrified of coming out, because of this kind of shit. Because they are told in the US, that they are an abomination, or against God or some other stupid, religiously bigoted crap.

And no one can do anything. So they keep living in fear, because of what? Someone's right to be a hateful fuckwit?

So no, mate, the US doesn't handle it the best way, not at all.

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CruisinForABrewsin t1_ja9oo26 wrote

Throwing somebody in jail just for being an asshole? Where do you draw the line, and who ultimately gets to decide where that line is?

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teabagmoustache t1_jaa70c8 wrote

I'm pretty hypocritical in that I never used care about racists and homophobes getting arrested for being aresholes, it wasn't something I could get worked up enough to defend.

When I saw people being threatened with arrest for holding up blank pieces of paper to protest the monarchy, during the Queen's funeral, I changed my mind on the subject.

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CruisinForABrewsin t1_jaa9olz wrote

Exactly, it's an unfortunate reality, but it is a slippery slope. Comedians used to get arrested for cursing on stage. Not for saying an offensive joke, simply just for cursing.

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Jackamalio626 t1_ja9gd13 wrote

Oh yeah that's a great way to fight hate.

Throw them all in jail and create a hate validating echo chamber.

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ChevyCheeseCake t1_ja9ehm5 wrote

Arresting people for hate speech isn’t the best way to handle it. Go into those communities and educate people why their hate speech is wrong. Throwing them in jail just breeds more dissension and hate

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geetarzrkool t1_jaa3r7m wrote

Neither I, nor your Government gave you permission to write that. Expect a visit shortly.

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s1lentastro1 t1_jaayuim wrote

>It isn't at all. It continually allows repulsive hate groups like the KKK operate.
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>And arresting people and showing them there are consequences to hate speech, is the best way to deal with it.

imagine a timeline where the government declares progressive SJW's as deplorables and starts arresting them all any time they show up to protest any given event. pink/blue hair with a septum piercing and you decided to show up to peacefully protest? nah fuck that noise, you're under arrest.

I'm just gonna leave it there. this is one of the more braindead takes I've seen on reddit lately. hopefully you're still an angsty teen.

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Fishflakes24 t1_jacouk7 wrote

Look at it this way, when Obama was in power he could have introduced laws which restricted free speech in the name of hate speech. Maybe he bans a few words and phrases no one like and life goes on. But then 8 years later his term is up and he hands over to Donald Trump. Now Obama is no longer deciding who can say what, Trump is. Do you think he would have used this power well?

What is and isn't offensive isn't fact, it's opinion. What some people see as a funny joke others see as hate speech and you shouldn't make laws based on opinions, they need to be based on facts.

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