Submitted by BCLetsRide69 t3_118pxhf in sports
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oshawaguy t1_j9l7pvw wrote
While acknowledging this remarkable achievement, it’s worth noting that he did this in 545 games, while Wayne Gretzky took 352 games to achieve this. Furthermore, Gretzky scored his 1600th point in 667 games, 315 games from his 800th point. Really puts his (Wayne) talent in perspective.
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Arturstakeonyhings t1_j9lhfoh wrote
Slow news day? Lol. 5th place. Wow!!!
hebbocrates t1_j9m0w6g wrote
great comment Artur 👍
dreamtimeboomerang t1_j9m1ghn wrote
You have to apply a scaling factor to Wayne in my opinion. Goaltending standards have improved unfathomably in that time. Completely different game now and a record like Wayne's will never be touched for that reason
cgg419 t1_j9m250h wrote
Ovechkin has a shot at the goals record.
Arturstakeonyhings t1_j9m26ux wrote
I grew up watching Gretzky. Maybe my bars set a little high?I don’t know. Anyone else remember those days? Now it seems like anything is made into “news” just to fill the air.
Domesticated_dad t1_j9m3zz6 wrote
I believe he is referring to points.
cgg419 t1_j9m45c7 wrote
That does make more sense
Domesticated_dad t1_j9m55ta wrote
Gretzky forced the entire game to change. People can try and diminish what he accomplished because of how much the game has changed since his time but like... He's one of the biggest reasons why the game changed. Sure eventually it would have evolved on its own but he moved it forward in a way that few players will ever be able to. His impact evolved the sport.
The stats are impressive enough on their own but the truth is Gretzky's legacy is way more important than that. Heck it could easily be argued that American hockey owes much of its popularity to the Gretzky to LA trade but that's another topic entirely.
Tanstalas t1_j9m6ofj wrote
Well, him going to LA made the NHLPA very happy.
hebbocrates t1_j9m9aii wrote
mcdavid is five times as skilled as gretzky ever was. the game as a whole has evolved like crazy yet mcdavid still dominates it, might as well appreciate it
singingquest t1_j9m9re3 wrote
The comparison to Crosby is a little misleading in my opinion. Crosby missed basically a season and a half (so probably around 120 games or so) in the prime of his career due to concussion, and he reached the 800 point milestone less than 30 games later
Arturstakeonyhings t1_j9ma45h wrote
You have a point. I’m not going to argue especially since It’s about how you feel and I feel like hockey was better back in my day. To each their own.
middleagedstudent t1_j9mak5e wrote
If Gartner had 700 goals, Conor would have 1200 in that same era.
Hard to compare when the game has changed so much.
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oshawaguy t1_j9nbggv wrote
Well, goalies like Hasek , Roy, Belfour?
dreamtimeboomerang t1_j9ngm01 wrote
All of those guys dominated in the 90s, and that was when goalies in general improved considerably and the game was changing a lot.
Look at Gretzkys stats through the 90s. They fall off a cliff in comparison to the 80s. After 1990, he only had 2 seasons with more than 100 points. Still very good obviously, but pales in comparison to when he was putting up 200+ in the 80s. His numbers look much more comparable to numbers you'd see in today's game, in comparison to the ridiculous numbers in the 80s.
jamesa7171 t1_j9nj8tn wrote
If you look at era-adjusted points:
Gretzky: 2475 points in 1487 games (1.66 points per game)
McDavid: 923 points in 545 games (1.69 points per game)
Given that Gretzky's totals include some later-age years it isn't quite fair to say that McDavid is outpacing him, but the other commenter is correct that the records can't be compared straight up.
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