Far_Confusion_2178 t1_j8imrub wrote on February 14, 2023 at 4:17 PM

Reply to comment by krashlia in Michigan State cancels athletic events for 48 hours after campus shooting by PrincessBananas85

I’m pretty sure it’s mainly handguns used, that’s always been the case. If you’re surprised that’s on you. I’ve been paying attention for a few years so I’ve seen it

I’m not talking about the former British colonies, that’s not relevant to modern times imo and no excuse. We’ve solved issues like slavery, voting rights, etc. guess what? Things can change in 200+ years.

Britains gun ban was after a school shooting in 1996

Australia fun violence was on the decline anyway? They passed that law after their FIRST mass shooting lol. No one’s passing laws like “oh this isn’t a problem and it seems to be going away on its own. We should probably pass a law about it just cuz”

Let me guess your solution. More guns? Officers in schools? We all saw Uvalde so fuck that

krashlia t1_j8ipka8 wrote on February 14, 2023 at 4:35 PM

"Things can change in 200+ years."

Well, its too bad that this thing didn't change in your favor. (Also, Slavery? Voting Rights? Those were charactarized by a legalized rights deprivation, not by formally recognized criminals screwing things up for everyone)

Sorry, the gun lobby exists because the demand for guns is rather high, not because congress is so sweet on them. And its gotten higher across all demographics since 2020.

Btw, I remember being told the Republicans would support bans if they saw Black people getting more guns. But thats failed to materialize.

Now, we could look into why people aren't disarming, but... Nah, contempt for the population, or just assuming Australia and the US are alike, is easier.

"Let me guess your solution. More guns? Officers in schools?"

Just because Uvalde screwed up, doesn't mean its a bad idea, under circumstances where they're not being led by an idiot. As evidenced by the fact that one guy killed the shooter because he wasnt being hobbled by some moron chief.

Anyways... How about 10 year sentences for any violation, hole punches in drivers licenses, and system meant to catch out liars and proxy buyers before they can become trouble?

SonOfRobot8 t1_j8irf32 wrote on February 14, 2023 at 4:47 PM

The solution certainly isn’t getting rid of guns, the bad guys are gonna get them regardless. And if you wouldn’t have police officers in school cause they fail to protect the public, you want to take my ability to defend myself away from me? Fuck out of here with that.

The major issue comes down to 2 things. Police funding and mental health.

People are constantly spewing bullshit about how the police need to be defunded, but when shit like this happens who do that go crawling back to? The fucking cops… you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

We need to increase funding to the police departments so they can have better training, more equipment (more variety of equipment. Ie more less than lethal options as well as more effective/efficient ways of de-escalation), and the incentive to have better (in terms of morals and role models to the public) people in these positions of authority.

I live less than a mile from where the shootings were happening on campus and had my gun loaded next to me the entire night until it came over the police scanners that the suspect had killed himself.

And yes to answer your question about more guns. Had some or all of the students involved had guns there likely wouldn’t be as many people injured. I’m not saying everyone should have a gun but an armed society makes a polite society.