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Qwertyui606 t1_j8c5ry5 wrote

It's a shame that the narrative was instantly 'oh man the nfl is so rigged phantom call'. The initial broadcast replay was awful and made it look like nothing happened. Mahomes clearly saw the hold and threw in that general direction to call attention to it, thinking he had a free play. Without the hold, the play probably results in a touchdown, bradberry was beat. It sucks to end the game like this, but it was certainly the right call.

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Perturabo_Iron_Lord t1_j8cj8wy wrote

The Fox broadcast was awful all night, rarely showing good angles of important plays or calls. Olsen poring gasoline on the situation by constantly saying that it shouldn’t have been called even after seeing the better angle didn’t help either.

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spanctimony t1_j8d1q1e wrote

People keep saying Olsen is so great and has surpassed Romo etc.

I don’t get it. He’s awful to me.

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creightonduke84 t1_j8dirqh wrote

Romo went downhill and lowered his bar hard

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spanctimony t1_j8dmubn wrote

I just want more of that year one Tony where he calls the plays ahead of time.

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creightonduke84 t1_j8dncw4 wrote

It makes me wonder, The longer your away from the game, the more homework and film study your most likely need to pull that off. Maybe we just need to resolve announcers to the recently retired, or just accept it’s a cool party trick with an expiration date.

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spanctimony t1_j8dnzud wrote

I flip back and forth from thinking it’s that to thinking it’s the NFL telling him to stop doing the play prediction.

The thing is, concepts don’t change that fast in the NFL.

The most successful offense in the league is the Shanahan offense. Not Kyle, but his Dad Mike. Yes, it has changed some and continues to evolve, but there are only so many approaches and strategies. It’s not so much that the game evolves, it’s more like rock paper scissors where scissors might fall out of popularity because everybody is doing rock, but then some people start doing paper to defeat rock, and all of a sudden scissors is viable again.

That’s obviously absurdly simplified and just to illustrate a point, but the NFL is more cyclical than evolutionary.

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R011_5af3_yeah t1_j8etjsi wrote

When the cte kicks in. It'll hit Olsen harder i think. Not wishing or nothing. Bradshaw has a steel plate for a skull, no idea how he's still coherent so mmv.

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Laschoni t1_j8d89qe wrote

Romo is probably worse at this point. But not because of any great ability on Olsen's part - Romo just cratered over the last 2 seasons.

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FerdaCoach t1_j8cz9zy wrote

True.. but way better then having Joe Buck.

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mkhopper t1_j8d1di8 wrote

Barely. There were times when I would say, "you know, I almost miss.... no, no I don't."

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FlipTheFalcon t1_j8dplhr wrote

After the first fumble recovery into the touchdown, I don't think they ever showed another replay of it. Not even ONCE.

Not even during the halftime recap!!!

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EoTN t1_j8d1gm0 wrote

Fox throwing fuel on a dumpster fire? Noooooooooo, couldn't be

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Entrefut t1_j8dpm5f wrote

Sounds pretty standard for the Fox brand.

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midas282000 t1_j8f49yt wrote

You are correct. If also says it is a clear hold, people aren’t complaining. Whether they think it or not they were influenced by his words.

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idungiveboutnothing t1_j8f6qul wrote

Olsen had zero clue what he was talking about with every single penalty and review throughout the night. Every single one of those booth reviews was blatantly obvious how it was going to go if you know anything about the catch rules or watched any game in the past 5 years and Olsen acted like it was some travesty they were overturning calls.

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ME5SENGER_24 t1_j8d5571 wrote

That’s cause Olsen is an absolute fucking retard in the booth. Every time I hear his voice, I ask myself which athlete asked for more money and didn’t take the role, giving way for Olsen to be on air? The entire time this was being replayed he wouldn’t let Kevin Burkhardt speak, even though Kevin was clearly correct in saying when the hold occurred and not looking at the final 3 seconds of the play. Literally anyone would be better to replace him…or nobody! Kevin could’ve called the Super Bowl by himself last night and nobody would’ve cared Olsen wasn’t there

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Cactuszach t1_j8d27tp wrote

Mike Perrera: We need to see the rest of the play as contact occurred before the pass.

Greg Olsen: Nah bad call omg

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creightonduke84 t1_j8dipo8 wrote

Olson isn’t wrong, if the jersey doesn’t stretch, you don’t aren’t offering any resistance to the runner. Plus it happens on a minor level on almost every play. And Olson is an offensive player, he kind of knows what impedes his route

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TheNextBattalion t1_j8eh126 wrote

I think it would have been overthrown, but it would have made a tight play for sure

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EatSleepJeep OP t1_j8c7t77 wrote

If the hold doesn't happen, he hits Juju in that flat, and if caught, he waltzes into the end zone for a touchdown. Instead it gets thrown away, and people are screaming "uncatchable".

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Beaker717 t1_j8ca7gc wrote

Wtf are you talking about. The jersey grab barley slowed him down and the ball was overthrown by 20 feet. Bogus call and blew the game. Not saying the eagles would do have won but it just stopped all play and let KC just walk away with it. I’m not saying shit is rigged but that was a terrible call

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Wrcklgg t1_j8cb5wn wrote

Except he did hold, and admitted it, so clearly not a bogus call. Maybe a soft call, but not a bogus call. Also the replay doesn’t show the earlier contact that occurred, he essentially held him twice.

Also, if we’re talking about shitty calls how about the refs overturning the complete pass that led to a fumble recovery and touchdown for the chiefs? I’d say that was a questionable one to overturn as well, the player stabilized the ball and turned his body, making a football move, before being hit.

It works both ways.

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Beaker717 t1_j8cbl4l wrote

Dude… he’s falling on the sword.. if you watch the highlight and honestly think it hindered the play in any way you’re crazy. I usually agree that a foul is a foul. But that shit gave them the auto 1st down and won them the game by letting them run out the clock. Play was dead before any flag was even thrown

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ThisMartyMcFly t1_j8cj32v wrote

So you agree it's a penalty... except when you don't want it to be...

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Frozen_Pancake t1_j8ctj7n wrote

Its not about whether its a penalty, its about that being the first one they call all game in a pivotal moment after letting them play like that all game.

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ThisMartyMcFly t1_j8cuskf wrote

Did you ever think that maybe they warned Bradberry that if he kept holding they would call it...??

Like how he held Juju on the 3rd and 8 and got away with it..??

So if it's a penalty. Don't do it!

Don't commit a penalty then cry when it gets called!

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Frozen_Pancake t1_j8ekzpw wrote

He… he didn’t. He admitted that it was a penalty… Thats the post.

The Chiefs had their share of uncalled holding calls too, the point is that it feels like a dirty way to end a good game by having the refs make a (pretty soft) holding call for the first time all game.

If thats going to be called holding it needs to be consistent through the whole game.

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Chronic_Samurai t1_j8dih2d wrote

I have never heard of this rule where a penalty can’t be called at pivotal moments if it wasn’t called earlier in the game.

If the eagles roughed the kicker during the game winning FG attempt. The refs aren’t allowed to call it because they haven’t called one earlier in the game?

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wilderjai t1_j8coo4w wrote

The Miles Sanders fumble recovered for a TD. Their not talking about that.

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