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swimbaitjesus t1_j7u5i2c wrote

Man the NBA is literally a reality show

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ctg9101 t1_j7unwbe wrote

And the NFL is WWE.

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absenceofheat t1_j7vbjjk wrote

Kevin Durant going through The Rock's storyline. Heel turn

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oktwentyfive t1_j7xa8po wrote

yeah its getting kinda weird. I dont think i like it at all.

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generation_D t1_j7uzhfn wrote

I find it so hard to care nowadays. Seems like every superstar is switching teams every 2-3 years. Besides a few like Giannis and Curry

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AutomaticMethod2437 t1_j7vkh03 wrote

What’s the point to follow a team too, everyone just follows the players at this point almost.

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Unkn0wn_Ace t1_j7xxust wrote

It depends on the team, i mean you’ve got teams like GS, Grizzlies, bucks, Mavs etc staying relatively the same the last few years, and then shitshows like the nets and lakers

Maybe they should get rid of the mid season trade deadline? Nets losing 90% of their talent all at once mid season is wild

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David_McGahan t1_j7wkqln wrote

Yeah I just can’t get emotionally invested in the NBA. The amount of player movement just blows my mind - losing your two best players, mid-season! Just absurd.

And then combine that with the huge amount of regular season games that means any individual game doesn’t matter all that much…

It’s a very different experience if you’re coming across as a fan of most other sports

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LordRobin------RM t1_j7xtq8q wrote

I’ve never understood how any individual can play that much basketball without their bodies falling apart.

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kale4reals t1_j7xn5ad wrote

Well baseball has twice the amount of games

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LordRobin------RM t1_j7xtmbz wrote

Yeah, but in baseball you’re generally more concerned with a series than an individual game. Your rival comes to town to play three, you hope to take two. There are fewer series in baseball than games in the NBA.

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ocular__patdown t1_j7v8jb6 wrote

My exercise biology professor always argued that the NBA was more of a show than a sport. Maybe he was onto something.

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BMonad t1_j7ustnw wrote

Best way to keep ratings and engagement up when the product is shit.

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zachtheguy t1_j7v98e2 wrote

Isn’t the product entertainment? Sounds like the NBA is really good at entertaining lately.

https://frontofficesports.com/nba-tops-10b-in-revenue-for-first-time-ever/

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BMonad t1_j7vbrc1 wrote

Apparently for some people, just like how the dumbest reality shows are exceedingly popular.

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9naf_strops6 t1_j7x047n wrote

It’s an “association”.

The American big ones…There’s the MLB (major league baseball), NFL (national football league), NHL (national hockey league) and then the NBA (national basketball association) 🥴 It can be the biggest joke sometimes….soap opera team hopping 🙄

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exytuu t1_j7vicl9 wrote

Lol if you don’t like basketball that’s fine but the product has been pretty fun this year

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longrastaman t1_j7v9515 wrote

Damn, no wonder I’ve been more interested this year

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swimbaitjesus t1_j7uxi0z wrote

Not wrong at all keeps everyone engaged

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Express_Helicopter93 t1_j7v98vl wrote

I disagree. There’s no consistency, and players can seemingly just go wherever they want whenever they want so there’s nothing ever built from loyalty, except in a few rare cases. This makes the league harder to follow.

Look at the nfl and nhl. You can predictably know which team most superstars will be playing for the following season, because the players collectively aren’t a bunch of divas. There’s much more loyalty. The athletes/GM’s in the nhl and nba appear to value and appreciate team chemistry more, so you get superstars playing most of their careers in the same place.

Big-name players getting traded in the nba all the time makes it much harder to follow and get into for casuals, and makes longtime fans begin to not give a shit because it’s a fucking carousel of players and teams and nothing means anything anymore.

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droppinkn0wledge t1_j7valud wrote

The NHL is the most stale league in pro sports with virtually zero roster movement or exciting trades, and arguably the worst playoff format in all of sports.

If the NBA is one end of the spectrum, the NHL is the opposite end. Neither is good.

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tronguro t1_j7wsunw wrote

How is the NHL format the worst, the divisional seeding? I don’t disagree with that being a bizarre way to seed but I still think the NHL playoffs are the most exciting postseason of any of the big 4 sports

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NYC_EDITS t1_j7webab wrote

I know this is going to be super unpopular, but when looking at loyalty and the different scales of it, I feel this is one thing which baseball has nailed, tons of homegrown stars, Judge, Trout, Acuna, among others. But you still have the big free agent splashed and big trades, i.e. Mookie Betts, Freddie Freeman, Giancarlo Stanton, Jaun Soto. In the NBA at this point, players move around so often there’s no point getting attached to anything, it’s all very tenuous and players force themselves out of teams all the times, which just makes contracts feel unimportant.

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erikumali t1_j7vlb2s wrote

You can't request for Loyalty from the players if the Organizations/Teams themselves have no Loyalty to said players.

Plus, there's the fact that Organizations have squandered the primes of multiple superstars. The Timberwolves and Kevin Garnett comes to mind. OKC and KD/Russ/Harden/Ibaka is also another example of a squandered core, since management was too cheap to retain Harden.

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NYC_EDITS t1_j7wehg7 wrote

I know this is going to be super unpopular, but when looking at loyalty and the different scales of it, I feel this is one thing which baseball has nailed, tons of homegrown stars, Judge, Trout, Acuna, among others. But you still have the big free agent splashed and big trades, i.e. Mookie Betts, Freddie Freeman, Giancarlo Stanton, Jaun Soto. In the NBA at this point, players move around so often there’s no point getting attached to anything, it’s all very tenuous and players force themselves out of teams all the times, which just makes contracts feel unimportant.

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Express_Helicopter93 t1_j7wfoew wrote

That is odd, how the MLB has done very well in that regard. It definitely makes the nba look even worse by comparison, with how little loyalty there is. Both from the franchises and the players.

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bigloudbang t1_j7vzkqd wrote

>Look at the nfl and nhl. You can predictably know which team most superstars will be playing for the following season, because the players collectively aren’t a bunch of divas. There’s much more loyalty.

As far as the NFL goes, there's definitely no shortage of divas. I dont know about the NBA but the NFL just has strong mechanisms to keep players if you want to

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Express_Helicopter93 t1_j7wdz58 wrote

The NFL’s divas are mostly confined to WRs and DBs. I don’t think there’s anyone out there legitimately comparing NFL players to NBA players in terms of diva-ness; it’s just so obviously common in the nba that’s it’s ingrained into the culture of the sport (flopping to draw fouls being common, etc).

Don’t get me wrong, WR’s and DB’s can diva with the best of them. Guys like cam Newton too. But it’s more of an exception in the NFL whereas in the NBA it’s almost expected unfortunately.

The NHL has essentially no personality ever and never has, so, frankly, it could use some more divas. You know you’ve got a problem if the player with the biggest personality in your league is Brad Marchand. Or for fuck’s sakes, the league could learn how to properly market their biggest stars but they haven’t done that properly since the days of Mario I think.

I guess what I’m saying is, it’s about balance

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weiderman316 t1_j7vrmld wrote

Speaking of reality show… Rockets TRADE for John Wall??? Wtf 😳

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