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starsandcamoflague t1_j0fv5ip wrote

I didn’t say you want glory, I said the thinking behind this idea is based on a need to be superior and dominant. You said it multiple times, that you think humans and dominant and superior and therefore the universe belongs to humans.

That isn’t true. Thinking that way is misguided and has resulted in many bad things happening. It is how horrific things are justified “in the name of science and progress”

If someone is dominant and superior, then someone else needs to be submissive and inferior. Therefore they can be treated badly and it doesn’t matter.

In your idea, mars is inferior. Anything that you don’t think is sentient enough is inferior. All these things without considering why it is there, what important role it is playing in keeping an ecosystem healthy.

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LordIlthari t1_j0fvhih wrote

If the universe doesn’t belong to humans, then what does it belong to? And don’t say “the universe” the universe isn’t a person unless you think rocks have souls. There’s nothing else out there but balls of dirt being blasted by radiation. We are alone. If we get a call from a bunch of aliens then I’ll gladly change my mind, but until then, all evidence suggests the universe is dead, empty, barren, and we are the only things that can change that.

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starsandcamoflague t1_j0fwvf5 wrote

That is a very sad way to think and live.

The universe isn’t empty and dead and barren.

It sounds like you’re dealing with fear at the vastness of space and our place in it, and you’re dealing with that by choosing to believe that humans, and therefore you, are in control and dominant and superior. That way actually, we’re not insignificant in this universe that you don’t understand, we’re actually the owners of it!

Which by the way, no one owns the universe. Not everything needs an owner.

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SuperRette t1_j0g3eor wrote

So far, I like you. A voice of rationality in this thread.

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