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Sleepdprived t1_j0foskk wrote

I mean... it does have so much mass. Which is why it will be hard to ship up the resources even from a 1/3 g grav well. You would need some base of operations to start the process of breaking up the usefull materials... like a company base at the bottom of the gravity well... some kind of work camp, or area of a distant land controlled from afar by an interested and invested party to gather foreign resources by people who aren't originally from that place.

Like a group of people sent out by a state to a new territory

What should we call that?

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LordIlthari t1_j0foyx2 wrote

Temporary by design, and best handled by robots with humans in orbit keeping an eye on things from space stations with spin gravity since that is an environment humans can actually live in.

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Sleepdprived t1_j0fp2ky wrote

So a group of workers sent to a distant land to exploit its resources... a robot COLONY

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LordIlthari t1_j0fq57q wrote

Let me clarify my point. I do not think that there should be any sort of mass human settlement on Mars or attempt to use Mars as a second earth. That is what I am referring to with colonization. No dome cities or ridiculous ideas of terraforming.

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Sleepdprived t1_j0fqo8q wrote

So... dome cities on a planet with tiny atmospheric pressure and lower gravity= unrealistic, ridiculous, outlandish, too hard

Planetcracking Mars to manufacture habitable microplanets in space= realistic, practical, straightforward, easy project...

I do not think your point is clarified. We will need to go to Mars at some point. The size of the colony doesn't matter. We have to colonize mars as a stepping stone to go farther. We may eventually do what you are saying. But that would be after the easier projects.

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SuperRette t1_j0g2tc0 wrote

We can't survive on Mars. Period.

Not unless we want to stay human. If we don't, then genetic modifications are the way to go; but there will then be two sapient species in the Sol system competing for resources.

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Sleepdprived t1_j0g591t wrote

One; that was not the previous discussion between myself and the other fellow.

Two; isolated cities in caped craters or tented canyons would totally give us room to make habitable for scientists workers and tourists.

Three: your first sentence is a little jumbled, Not unless we don't want to stay human- is what I think you may have meant.

Four: we cannot easily predict where ai assisted science will do for us. Maybe we will find a way to live on mars with better medicines involving new proteins and enzymes folded by nano-materials thought of by very powerful machines.

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