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KCalifornia19 t1_j0fnysm wrote

Broski, human society has very real, practical limitations that we can't just plot-jump around. Working within those limitations is going to be a start and just getting human boots on the group will be the greatest accomplishment in human history.

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LordIlthari t1_j0fokxm wrote

Agreed. A mission to Mars is necessary, primarily as a step in the exploitation of Mars for the eventual construction of a dyson swarm and galactic colonization fleet.

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The-Sturmtiger-Boi t1_j0fp0tc wrote

How the fuck are the dyson satellites from mars gonna get close to the sun, the SHEER AMOUNT OF FUEL needed to get to a low orbit of the sun is mind boggling and shit. Hell, just to get to mercury, it took 5 years of gravity assists to slow down enough to get into an orbit of mercury alone. Mercury is the hardest planet to get to, and you want to send thousands of those to an orbit even lower than that?

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LordIlthari t1_j0fpcgq wrote

It would be fairly foolish to assemble the satellites on Mars itself. These are O’Neil cylinders we’re talking about here. You build those in space.

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Hunter62610 t1_j0fr0dq wrote

we are hundreds of years minimum from that tech. At least 2100 and that's assuming some insane benevolent super AI happens within 20 years and it basically breaks all known technological boundaries.

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LordIlthari t1_j0fr5nx wrote

Probably, but it’s important to have our priorities straight. I will not live to see humanity become a K2 civilization, let alone a k3 civilization. But nobody will unless we make that a goal and progress towards it.

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