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s1ngular1ty2 t1_j0gey76 wrote

Reply to comment by ILoveEmeralds in Why FTL travel seems impossible to me from a practical standpoint. Insight requested. by JerryWasARaceCarDrvr

To bad it's IMPOSSIBLE. Stop believing sci-fi and click bait FALSE tech articles.

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frezik t1_j0ggtdk wrote

Should BELIEVE Reddit comments with WORDS in caps, instead.

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s1ngular1ty2 t1_j0gh4gt wrote

I don't care if you believe me or not because I don't need you to believe for what I said to still be true :)

This is science, not faith.

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frezik t1_j0ghab4 wrote

It's science, but you're not helping your case by using bad messaging.

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s1ngular1ty2 t1_j0ghcm7 wrote

Telling you the truth is not bad messaging. You are just mad you can't get your way.

FTL is never happening.

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drfeelgood779 t1_j0giiih wrote

I think you mean "linear acceleration to speeds faster than light" is never happening. Even Einstein stipulated that wormholes (Einstein-Rosen Bridges) could connect two places. Assuming we figure out how to make them large enough, we could get around the acceleration cap.

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s1ngular1ty2 t1_j0gita9 wrote

No I mean all FTL methods are impossible... Cause they are all impossible...Wormholes can not be used for FTL travel or even FTL communication and we already know this. You just don't know this. The experts are giving lectures on this to college kids every year.

You need to educate yourself before going around saying what is possible and what isn't.

Warp drive isn't possible either because no warp drive has a means to get to FTL. You don't just turn it on and magically travel at FTL speeds. YOu still have to accelerate from rest to FTL and none of the proposed warp drive ideas have a means of doing this. I can link you a video proving this if you want. Not like you'd watch it anyway because you are brainwashed by sci-fi and think everything is possible.

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Raeandray t1_j0gj8jp wrote

No one disagrees with our current understanding of the laws of the universe the FTL travel appears to be impossible.

But its the height of arrogance to claim it actually is impossible, and it will always be impossible. The nuclear bomb would've been thought impossible 1,000 years ago. You don't know what discoveries could be made in our understanding in the future.

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s1ngular1ty2 t1_j0gjupg wrote

It's not arrogance to say FTL is impossible with our understanding of physics because it is. There is also no observations of ANYTHING ever moving FTL from any experiment or space observation. This kind of implies it's impossible.

You have a laymans understanding of physics. We have a VERY GOOD understanding of most things. We can predict what the universe looked like less than a fraction of a second after the big bang and have proof of this from particle colliders.

Our physics is EXTREMELY good. There are very few questions left that would change our understanding in a such a profound way that suddenly FTL is possible.

You can hope as much as you want, but the probability of FTL ever being possible is next to zero.

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Raeandray t1_j0gn5xq wrote

> It's not arrogance to say FTL is impossible with our understanding of physics

That's not what you said.

>No I mean all FTL methods are impossible... Cause they are all impossible

This is what you said.

I agree our current understanding of physics suggests its impossible.

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s1ngular1ty2 t1_j0gnboy wrote

Yeah and our physics is not likely to change to make it possible.

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frezik t1_j0gjysh wrote

No, I fully accept that FTL isn't happening. Your messaging is bad, equivalent to a scummy Free Energy ad.

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s1ngular1ty2 t1_j0gk6j4 wrote

Nope, you are just mad you can't ever have FTL.

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gaybraham-lincoln t1_j0gj5d4 wrote

“Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow”

Science is ever changing, and we are always learning more new things that we didn’t think were possible

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s1ngular1ty2 t1_j0gklfg wrote

I don't care what you believe. I'm telling you facts. FTL is impossible and just because you don't understand this doesn't mean it isn't true.

We have an extremely developed understanding of physics that hasn't changed dramatically in 100 years when it comes to FTL travel. It is not likely to ever change either.

FTL is just impossible.

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X2Starbuster t1_j0h6c79 wrote

These two statements are irreconcilable. “It is not likely to ever change either“ and “FTL is just impossible”.

Scientific consensus is that FTL in the ways currently discussed is extremely unlikely, outside of some limited potential wormhole scenarios that either require exotic materials, science, and massive energy that renders it pretty speculative.

Any change to that would be a pretty significant scientific revolution, but those have happened before and will almost certainly happen again.

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FedRCivP11 t1_j0gi3l6 wrote

Because, as everyone knows, physics has already coughed up her last secrets to us. There’s nothing we have yet to learn about.

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s1ngular1ty2 t1_j0gi9u9 wrote

Unless our physics completely changes, which it hasn't for the past 100 years, then it's very unlikely FTL will ever be possible because with our current physics it is impossible.

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Gatrigonometri t1_j0gj5sp wrote

You’re meaning to tell us that people 200 years ago had the innate understanding of the mechanism of splitting atom?

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s1ngular1ty2 t1_j0gkd6w wrote

You are again equating something we didn't understand to something we do understand and know is impossible. Splitting the atom wasn't impossible because it happens naturally in nature all the time. Fusion also happens in stars naturally all the time and we can see it.

NO ONE has ever seen anything moving FTL in any experiment or anywhere in nature.

It is impossible.

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mf9769 t1_j0gq383 wrote

Dude, I think everyone understands that FTL is impossible. What you're not doing is not leaving the possibility of being wrong, however minute, open. That's not science. That's bigotry.

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mf9769 t1_j0gsdfx wrote

Maybe we don’t have the ability to see things moving at FTL until we prove the theory behind them moving at FTL being possible. In that case, we just don’t know what to look for. If you were blind and didn’t know what the color blue was and i tried to explain it to you, you wouldn’t have the frame of reference to understand what the heck i’m talking about.

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mf9769 t1_j0gudat wrote

This is where you’re partially wrong. I won’t say my understanding of math and physics is at the level of a PHD or anything like that but 30 years of dinner table discussions with someone who’s understanding of it IS at that level, as well as a personal interest in the subject and multiple college courses has given me a good backround. His belief, like yours and mine, btw, is that it’s impossible, precisely for all the reasons you’ve stated. At the same time, even that guy doesn’t have the brazen overconfidence to say that we understand enough to completely rule anything out.

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s1ngular1ty2 t1_j0gvkeq wrote

Bro, provide evidence you are right or keep learning. YOu can't just say things are possible with no evidence. This is how science works. You need evidence.

There is NO EVIDENCE that FTL is possible. NONE. ZERO. We've never witnessed it.

Our best math says it's impossible also.

If you can't accelerate to FTL you can't move FTL, and General Relativity says you can't accelerate anything with mass to light speed. It requires infinite energy.

Since infinite energy is IMPOSSIBLE then FTL is IMPOSSIBLE.

Unless we overhaul General Relativity, which hasn't changed in over 100 years, then FTL is a pipe dream.

The best minds have been trying to improve GR for 100 years and have failed. It has also been proven to be EXTREMELY accurate over those 100 years.

It is the MOST advanced understanding we have and the culmination of the pinnacle of our achievements and it says you can not go FTL because of having to accelerate to get to FTL velocities.

Warp drives do not solve this problem. They specifically ignore this problem because of how impossible it is. They do not work.

Wormholes also do not work.

Nothing we have ever thought of works. They all fail.

You are relying on a complete overhaul of everything we understand to make FTL possible.

It's not happening.

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Demiculverin t1_j0giu8k wrote

In the 1800s they said the same thing. And with the discovery of XRays that has changed dramatically.

Arrogance in science gets you nowhere.

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ILoveEmeralds t1_j0gmldj wrote

The Alcubierren warp drive is the future. Also people have also said similar things to powered flight, traveling across the equator, and that washing hands helps prevent diseases from spreading.

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ILoveEmeralds t1_j0go1og wrote

Bro, we’re humans. We’ve built enormous stone monuments with a couple slaves and some string as a calculator. We can figure it out bro.

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