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just_thisGuy t1_iwrg8kv wrote

Reply to comment by Chimalez in Dark matter may be information itself by newsphilosophy

Just like mass can be converted to energy it’s not a huge leap to think it might be convertible into information, might be an interesting clue that we might be in a simulation.

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QVRedit t1_iwsew0v wrote

All the properties of matter require an information state to store their values. Something as complex as a proton must take multiple bits of information to describe it.
How many ? 20 ? 30 ? More ?

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just_thisGuy t1_iwskcuq wrote

Protons are made from quarks, but even quarks probably need a huge number of bits to be represented, maybe even more bits per quark than there are quarks in the universe, wolfram has in interesting information theory on that, where even space is just array of numbers.

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QVRedit t1_iwton9g wrote

Why so many bits per quark - I don’t understand / can’t conceptualise that..

Can you offer any explanation ?

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just_thisGuy t1_iwuzz7d wrote

I don’t know if I’m smart enough to explain or at least I have not spent the time enough to understand it exactly, but basically he has an idea that space (and all the stuff inside it) can be explained by a massive number of hyper graphs and their relationships. Here is a link: https://www.wolframphysics.org/technical-introduction/potential-relation-to-physics/the-structure-of-space/#p-410 So if I understand it correctly everything in the universe including space are just nodes and relationships between nodes, and there are simple rules that govern them, I don’t think they know what the rules are yet, actually there is an idea that it does not matter that the rules are as long as they are consistent. But anyway to make it work, you need a huge number of those notes, there are more nodes representing every single plank scale section of space that there are plank scale sections of space in the observable universe. It’s wild stuff. Lex Friedman has an interview about it here: https://youtu.be/4-SGpEInX_c

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QVRedit t1_iwvvlhe wrote

There must be some very granular system at some level.

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mentive t1_iwrsewr wrote

Simulation was my first thought....

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