yaykarin OP t1_ixfdm5w wrote
Reply to comment by Deadpool11085 in Do you agree with Stephen Hawking about Earth being unsustainable? by yaykarin
You think global warming will end humanity and then the temps will regulate?
One_King_4900 t1_ixfeq0p wrote
The earth will regulate humanity. She owns us. It doesn’t have to be just temp swings. Through n a few massive volcanic eruptions, virus outbreaks and a rising sea level and were pretty much toast.
yaykarin OP t1_ixff1ns wrote
It is kinda crazy how little control - and even defense we have against mother nature.
One_King_4900 t1_ixffotn wrote
Not crazy in my view. Our intelligence makes us think we are better than nature. But we are from from it. Put a man, naked and alone in the wilderness anywhere in this planet he will most definitely parish. We removed ourselves from nature because we cannot survive in it. It quite comical actually.
misanthrope_irl t1_ixghkkr wrote
First of all: perish. Second of all, no. People survived in the wilderness for most of human history. We removed ourselves from the natural elements because it's more comfortable and more safe. Sure, plenty-- probably most-- civilized people would not fare well and/or would perish. But this is not due to some sort of biological shortcoming. The simple fact is that it's due to a developed dependence on technology/shelter/civilization
One_King_4900 t1_ixhdhp6 wrote
Would we though? In this day, the only people living “wild” that we know about are in warm climates. Africa, Amazon, the pacific islands. However, they still need to make clothes for the wet seasons. They still need to make shelters. My point is put a family pet dog or cat in the wild and they will survive with just being them. We need to shelter ourselves from nature. We, in our natural naked form are very much defenseless against the elements of nature.
misanthrope_irl t1_ixijbu2 wrote
Right but due to the very same capacity for ingenuity and exploitation that is destroying the planet, we are capable of utilizing the resources of the natural world to provide ourselves with the shelter we require. If what you're saying was true, humanity never would have survived as a primitive species in the first place.
KiweeFR t1_ixhpmqp wrote
Well we are a herd animal... Of course we wouldnt survive alone.
Humanity definitely started out as naked groups in the wilderness. They survived well enough for us to exist.
Some groups still exist to this day !
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oxiraneobx t1_ixg66jc wrote
>Put a man, naked and alone in the wilderness anywhere in this planet he will most definitely parish. We removed ourselves from nature because we cannot survive in it.
I wish I could put this on a tee shirt as that is so true.
TomChristmas t1_ixfz1oq wrote
Man think even beyond that, the incredible rate we’re moving at through space. Rotating, orbiting the sun, moving through the galaxy all at the same time
KorgX3 t1_ixg9i20 wrote
I like the idea that climate change is the Earth having a fever. They serve the same purpose.
CowSlayer450 t1_ixg3tzd wrote
Yeah, that's probably about what will happen. As it stands we're what, 50,000 years from the next ice? And all of like...4 years from a blue ocean event that's going to drastically accelerate that.
DollyVarden2021 t1_ixfiwo4 wrote
Climate change is manageable, but our population levels are way out of control. 8 billion people and counting. We will annihilate everything natural to feed ourselves and make fancy electronics to amuse ourselves.
Nuclear weapons will be our undoing, and we could permanently damage the planet.
rottencakepowder t1_ixfqm75 wrote
The Atom is our Savior. Only when we bathe in its light will there be hope for humanity.
oxiraneobx t1_ixg7jb1 wrote
I totally agree with humans being the likely weapon of our own demise, and we may very well cause damage to the planet that lasts tens of thousands of years, even a hundred thousand years, but that's a miniscule amount of time the Earth has left as a habitable planet.
Best estimates are approximately 500 million year to one billion years of habitable time left before the Sun heats to the point life is no longer sustainable. The Earth has plenty of time to heal itself and allow other species to rise and fall.
As a planet, Earth is kinda middle-aged, 4.5 billion years old with an likely life of 7.5 - 8.0 billion years. Species are the fragile things here, not the Earth. It's fine, we're screwed, LOL!
As I write these numbers out and think generally how we are presently behaving as a species, I'm hoping we get to next Tuesday. Not worried the Earth, though.
DollyVarden2021 t1_ixhsfgd wrote
Excellent discussion. Unusual for this platform. 100k years is permanent in human terms. We could ignite enough nukes to destroy the atmosphere. Forever. Like Mars potentially. I like to think that you are correct, but, I think we could do end-game damage with the nukes we have. Hopefully, I am wrong.
Deadpool11085 t1_ixfgq35 wrote
I don’t know if global warming is the thing that will get us. I’m not even sure I believe in that. I’m not here to debate that either. Maybe it will, maybe it won’t. We could be wiped out by anything from storm and floods, volcanic eruptions, a meteor/comet, or even an all out nuclear war.
Odd-Aardvark-8234 t1_ixfl7ju wrote
Global warming is real but so is the cyclic temperature change look it up the evidence was found from one of the oldest glaciers , they took core samples and what if found is pretty eye opening
phred14 t1_ixfo8am wrote
Difference is that cyclic warming doesn't generally happen really fast. There are forcing function things that do, like supervolcanoes or asteroid strikes, or humanity. Time scale is important.
Our civilization, poorly adapted as it is, is adapted to our current climate and is not ready to adapt to rapid change.
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