Impossible_Pop620 t1_ixf9kc0 wrote on November 23, 2022 at 12:15 AM

Reply to comment by The_Solar_Oracle in Realistically speaking When do you think we will land humans on Mars? by EnaGrimm

43/78 missions+sub-missions successful, according to wiki. I should clarify that when I said 'we' I meant humanity, not Americans.

The_Solar_Oracle t1_ixff9m2 wrote on November 23, 2022 at 1:00 AM

Again: Many of the failures are attributable to a single nation which doesn't even exist anymore, and this really messes with our understanding of spaceflight as a whole by ignoring improvements in reliability.

As it stands, however, deep space exploration really is dominated by NASA. The agency is and will likely remain the front runner in terms of technology and mission volume for many years.

Impossible_Pop620 t1_ixffrjr wrote on November 23, 2022 at 1:04 AM

I never said otherwise, AFAIK all successful missions to Mars surface are NASA ones. Risks are very high, tho and tbh, I struggle to see them actually doing it in the near future (50x years).

The_Solar_Oracle t1_ixfwpdt wrote on November 23, 2022 at 3:22 AM

My point was that you're using data that's taken out of context and ignores the many improvements which make the old failures; often which were the result of quality control and immature spaceflight technologies. Including the failures of the Soviets' programs would be like using boiler explosions from steam engines to say diesel engines are unsafe.

Heck, even your revision is not terribly accurate. Aside from NASA, the ESA, China, India and even the United Arab Emirates have all had successful missions to Mars. China's even got a functioning lander and rover.