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TimeTravelingChris t1_j7s6rf1 wrote

I am in a weird spot with Starship. I hope it works and recognize the revolution it will bring.

On the other side, I really think this is going to be a lot harder than Elon let on and even small but likely issues are going to significantly set it back. I truly hope I am wrong but it's pretty crazy what they are doing.

In other news Elon probably needs to stop communicating unrealistic time lines.

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fattybunter t1_j7ssmot wrote

Take a step back, and think about the context here. The most powerful rocket of all time, which is also fully reusable, is about to test fire all of its engines tomorrow in a full launch configuration. You are criticizing timelines? This would have been like yelling at Ford for not making the Model T sooner.

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Ukulele_Maestro t1_j7uxcnq wrote

I'm with this guy. People need to be more realistic about starship, where it is in development, and the high likelihood there are going to be teething pains and developmental delays due to unforeseen technical issues arising.

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TimeTravelingChris t1_j7svcdm wrote

I am so tired of Elon Stan's. Yeah Elon was calling for the first launch back in August to occur in "1 to 2 months" so he was off a bit. And my point is it IS the most powerful rocket of all time, we should probably expect issues and delays.

I would love for this thing to fly without issue.

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fattybunter t1_j7sx2tl wrote

Well if you're getting ad hominem about it, people have been proselytizing the same rhetoric since 2005 for SpaceX and it's infuriating. Obviously the timeline estimates have been way off. It's the damn actions that matter.

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Jaker788 t1_j7tjczw wrote

And SpaceX is far from alone is missing targets. ULA is behind on Vulcan, Blue Origin is way behind on New Glenn and BE-4, Boeing is exceedingly late on Starliner service.

It's almost like rockets are hard or something and one hiccup in hardware development puts everything back.

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TimeTravelingChris t1_j7szc2d wrote

I feel like this is different because of the scale. I really do hope it works. It's incredible. I am just tempering my expectations due to the complexity and it's weird that seems to be a hot take.

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Allnamestaken69 t1_j7t23ap wrote

You can't just call anyone that enters into a argument with you an Elon Stan that is arguably more pathetic than some guy stanning for elon. We all dislike stans lel.

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Reddit-runner t1_j7t73o9 wrote

>Elon probably needs to stop communicating unrealistic time lines.

No. Definitely not.

You really don't have to like Musk. But his aggressive timelines are one of the main reasons for SpaceX success.

It gives management a defined goal to work towards to. Without that, the pace would be much slower.

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bookers555 t1_j7vcdlc wrote

Bear in mind that even if Starship didnt fly until 2027 it would still be the fastest developed super heavy lift rocket, and the first to be reusable.

If it works, it will leave the Moon just a ticket away.

Lets have patience, the reward will be worth it.

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restitutor-orbis t1_j7w19p3 wrote

Saturn 5 took from 1960 to 1967 from start of real work to the first launch (amazing what 5% of the federal budget can do for you). Since Starship work was announced as starting in 2016, it seems it's not the fastest developed any more.

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