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ipatimo t1_j68tthw wrote

Reply to comment by LiveComfortable3228 in Don't despair; there is decent likelihood that an extremely large amount of resources will flow from AGI to the common man (even without UBI) by TheKing01

No one will need AI data scientists after AGI arrival. But concerning taxes, jobs would not disappear, they would be replaced by AGI. Goods and services would be produced even at higher scale and taxes would come to the governments in greater amount than before. The problem is that "no taxation without representation" one can read also backwards.

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TheKing01 OP t1_j6958wz wrote

> taxes would come to the governments in greater amount than before

I'm skeptical of this. See the last part of my post.

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LiveComfortable3228 t1_j6b1bsd wrote

Hello? If all those jobs go to AGI, how are people supposed to support themselves? You will have a massive shift from taxable income (people working) to companies having additional profits and paying less tax on those profits. Basically, corporations getting richer and government and people getting poorer.

The thing is that UBI is not the answer either. Work generates income but also gives you a sense of purpose and accomplishment. A society paid to sit on an apartment watching tiktok videos will collapse quickly, UBI or no UBI.

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ipatimo t1_j6c94eo wrote

Of course it is not guaranteed that companies will pay all that taxes, it's government job to force them. My point was, that in this situation there would be money even if everyone lose their job. The problem of wealth distribution is still to be solved, but we can see how it can be made in countries like Germany. There people are considered to have a right to have all necessary to live. Of course for now it is only minimum: food, clothes, place to live, public utilities. But it's enough to live and many people, who are unable to find a job are living from this money for years. Purpose and accomplishment are important for humans, but is a work, especially a payed work, is the only way to get it? The problem of unhappy people watching tiktok in their apartments can be solved by AI mental health asistant. Now there is basically no access to mental health services for the majority of Earth's population.

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